Just remove alch
It doesn’t add anything unique to the game
I tried reworking it but it ended up still being a kingmaker
Just make neuts neut again. Most neuts right now aren’t really neutral, but pretty hard siding by mechanics.
I could try reworking it to a support that helps evils, though.
WELL technically.
But in how many games do you see this in fact happening?
The problem is that nobody likes playing survivors.
Oh god, that was a nice, 100% neutral class. I loved it.
Who doesn’t like survivors? What do you mean with that
Roles who need to survive until endgame to win. Most people find it extremely boring which is why the Alch was originally removed.
Fool and Alch were removed because of personal opinions of a few, not more. There was no real reason for it as far as I can see.
Actually a decent amount
If you want an example of neutral kingmaking, then look no further than SFoL 37 (iirc), SFoL 44, and FoL 23 where neuts that were already pretty much guaranteed to win being able to potentially decide the match
This is the most egregious example
Fool was removed as their goal was braindead easy in FoL. You’d almost always see d2 Fool wins before it was reworked.
What happened in FoL 23?
I thought people hated alch
FoL is long
You don’t do much solving as a survivor
if you don’t, you’re doing something wrong
Scorned won
Scorned could have handed the game to either BD or NK
They handed it to BD
Which is why it was removed. Polls back showed that an overwhelming amount of players wanted it gone/reworked.