Accused | Voters | Votes |
---|---|---|
Arete | SirDerpsAlot | 1/8 |
Marshal | Arete | 1/8 |
Currently Abstaining Players | Jgoesgaming, WazzaAzza , AlexejheroYTB, Frostwolf103, Shurian, PoisonedSquid, Marshal, katze, Possessed, JakeTheWolfie, Sam17z, Kai_5, Luxy | 13/15 |
Overall good deduction, I may put you back to Null
I’m voting Arete
fixed
I don’t like that nobody is talking about Vulgard’s reads, I’ve been waiting to see if people would analyze their D1 reads to determine who most likely killed them. To my surprise, everyone just ignored them, I think this is indicative of at least one of their scumreads being correct.
From what I could tell, they were scumreading Katze and Possessed D1.
This post could also be relevant.
Katze is currently a slight town lean for me and Squid is null. I would like to see more content from both of them.
The most likely to be scum out of those three is Possessed, IMO.
Here he rolefishes the person who Shurian was linked with.
No, it means scum can start distancing from the start of the day.
He says this, despite being told that it’s better to only out redchecks later in the day, to gauge reactions and make associations.
More rolefishing, this time on SirDerpsAlot. Well, technically it’s not a different person than last time, but they didn’t seem to know that.
Here, he says he thinks Derps is NE.
Then he backtracks on it, and says it depends on his response. Later he’ll go back to NE-reading him for being aggressive.
Apostles can’t conduit can they? Give me a sec to check.
Why wouldn’t they be able to? If they couldn’t, Mystic would immediatly be outed upon conversion.
Corrupt Minds; ok, Apostle can conduit.
I feel like he was trying to fake townslip with this.
All I’ve gathered off Arete is that his reads felt forced. Scum indicator? Not sure. Town reads can be forced as well.
Why would Arete force their reads as town? It’s not like they were under pressure to give reads, and they’re expercienced enough to give them naturally. He also never explains why they feel forced, this was probably to discredit Arete.
So far, their only read seems to be SirDerpsAlot, I’ve been trying to determine whether his NE read on them comes from TMI that he’s not scum, or just from bad townplay.
My conclusion is that it likely comes from TMI, because he doesn’t want to read him as anything other than NE. He probably doesn’t want to read him as scum because he knows Derps’ won’t flip scum. I think he’s trying to seem productive without actually having to fake scumreads.
Just because his arguments aren’t convincing, doesn’t mean he can’t be pushing for a mislynch on someone who was scumread by multiple people D1.
AFAIK, Derps has been in the PoE in every game of his, so scum could use him to push a mislynch, and bus him if it backfires.
Well now I see why lmao.
If he always goes into PoE and I’m straight up telling him WHY, I’d imagine others have too?
Derps: Why not change it up so you don’t get mislynched in future games?
He acts like he understands that Derps’ behavior isn’t necessarily NE-indicative, but then goes right back to calling him NE in his next post.
Well your behavior isn’t indicative of groupscum or NK. It’s indicative of NE. If I were a Knight, I’d probably nightvig you.
He also says
Derps: Why not change it up so you don’t get mislynched in future games?
which indicates he has TMI that Derps is a mislynch here, despite seeming pretty confident he’ll flip NE.
like someone who I’m not sure on but have a lean?
Possesed is a very light V-lean.
I think it’s most likely Marshal is his partner. I was going to write a wallpost on Marshal aswell, but I see that Arete has also just posted a wallpost on him.
I just want to add that he’s trying to silence/discredit the biggest town leaders with bad reasoning, and that I think he’s buddying with Luxy because they are incorrectly scumreading Arete.
I don’t know who the convert is, since not everyone has posted enough to compare to their D1, assuming they managed to succesfully convert someone.
I think Marshal is a better lynch association-wise, but writing this wallpost burned me out to much to check. I’ll probably lurk for an hour or so while doing homework, ping me if you want me to explain something more.
tl;dr I’m positive that Possessed is scum, andcurrently think Marshal is his partner.
tl;dr I’m positive that Possessed is scum, andcurrently think Marshal is his partner.
The irony is Marshal is one of my Scumreads, along with Sam. I think Sam is a bit higher right now though.
I do like the analysis you gave so far though Jgoes. I brushed it but it does look like in-depth analysis, even though you’ve been tunneling me since the day started.
Brushed through it*
He acts like he understands that Derps’ behavior isn’t necessarily NE-indicative, but then goes right back to calling him NE in his next post.
Few comments: That behavior might be NAI for Derps, but it IS usually indicative of alignment normally. I’m not making exceptions, sorry.
which indicates he has TMI that Derps is a mislynch here, despite seeming pretty confident he’ll flip NE.
Friendly advice for future games, and notice that I don’t have a NE as lynch priority.
Firstly.
We shall discuss the one missing kill.Why was there one missing kill?
- ScumKiller Occupied.
- Cult Game
- NK Occupied.
- Both them kill same person.
That leaves the question. Why kill Vulgard?
I don’t think any offensives should out their occupies or redirects, but if there’s any reason to suspect that this isn’t a Cult game I think they should do the same action again.
What is your conclussion now day 2 is started? I know you made readlist but I don’t suppose you have changed a bit?
From then to now, I think the only major change is that I’m more scumleaning SDA, their tone today has been atrocious. I need more time to make a new list, though. So that’s probably coming tomorrow. (irl, not D3)
tl;dr Marshal’s push on Vul was far more consistent with a scum mindset than a BD one
With the hindsight of Vulgard being a dead BD, this certainly does look bad.
But… would Marshal kill Vulgard, being the only person to really push on Vulgard at all? Killing one of your main scumreads doesn’t make sense. I can’t speak for Marshals skill level but that really doesn’t feel like a play any average level player would do.
Yo yo yo, it’s me, the Cult Leader Best Player in the World
Claim coming when I get on PC in 3 hours since I’m obviously target # fucking 1 again
Accused | Voters | Votes |
---|---|---|
Arete | SirDerpsAlot | 1/8 |
Marshal | Arete | 1/8 |
Currently Abstaining Players | Jgoesgaming, WazzaAzza , AlexejheroYTB, Frostwolf103, Shurian, PoisonedSquid, Marshal, katze, Possessed, JakeTheWolfie, Sam17z, Kai_5, Luxy | 13/15 |
jUz PlAy GoOd LoL
Because Arete voting you and try to discredit his read on you?
Stop pushing LHF smh
LHF is the most poisonous of fruit.
You want me to doctorate my reads just because its LHF? Get real.