[FoL] Forum of Lies 27 - 10 day FoL (2/18) - Blue Dragon win

[Amelia]

Vote count

Votee	Voted by	Votes
Braixen	SirDerpsAlot, Alice	2/9
Marshal	Vulgard, Possessed, EVO	3/9
Vulgard	Marshal, Braixen	2/9
Ami	Napoleon	1/9
Chloe	DryBones	1/9

please tell me if I made an error

[Wazza]

There’s more of this but I’m going afk for a bit.

[Vulgard]

@Chloe

as Katze suspicious of any specific player?

I… don’t think so.

Katze has a tendency to have extremely few reads in general for some reason. I don’t think the kill was because of a certain suspicion. If anything, it was a protective dodge / fish for investigators if NK is Demon.

@Possessed

I do all those as both alignments

You’ve been way more relaxed in all V games I recall from you, such as Virtuous.

[SirDerpsAlot]

Can we please stop doing this

[Possessed]

Is this an unseen game?

[EVO]

Highlighted texts are meant to put specific parts of posts under scrutiny.

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Early D1 Marshal ISO

@Marshal

hey im the one who was supposed to stupidly claim

court wizard gang

@Marshal later said he had hardclaimed today. So I can’t dismiss this as a meme, if this turns out to be a lie, then it would be a shotty attempt at a RT at best, but either way this claim is weird to me and I am unsure if he is still claiming it.

@Marshal

chloe wolf, me + vul not on her faction

@Marshal

eh that’s a take

i hate it

but im gonna finger of suspicion you for now

@Marshal

no no no vul what do you not get

jesus man this is 1 post she has 1 post you can’t say someone is coasting 18 minutes into the day with 1 post god did u actually rand wolf

@Marshal

boooo

chloe/vul scumteam, probably unseen but maybe cult

gimme cred @ endgame

Why such an early estimate of scum faction being Unseen?

@Marshal

buddy it’s not a bad way to read

but that type of read comes… y’know after the shitposting phase. Saying some1 is a coaster is fine but calling some1 a coaster after like 20 mins is bull fucking shit

@Marshal

im pretty sure ami just isn’t here boomer

This was said after he pinged me for “[doing nothing]”; although I suspect he was saying this just to pressure Vulgard; however, if done seriously, is hypocritical at a glance.

@Marshal

actually vul i know for certain that line of reasoning is bullshit but can’t share why

TMI?

@Marshal

kat you aren’t in town leader position stop acting like you call the shots

im electing alice as town leader because she’s probably town and if she isn’t i don’t care because she agrees with me on some things

Challenge to Katze’s early grab at a power slot (likely to keep it for himself)

@Marshal

im electing alice as town leader because she’s probably town and if she isn’t i don’t care because she agrees with me on some things

@Marshal

someone townie

who can lead

and is good at FM

town leader

@Alice shut these nerds up

Early pocket and setup for a “towncore?”

@Marshal

seriously y’all are trippin im so hard in my townmeta

i could get townread but amn’t

why

This is just weird.

@Marshal

this is obviously my town meta
jesus christ read any of my games

it would be so fucking EZ to get townread but im not cuz idrc.
if i were wolf(cultseen or nk) i woild know its important to stay alive but im not

y

This guy has to be on cocaine

@Marshal

i could so fucking easily get towncored but do not care(or want to)

A-Again with how ‘easily’ he could be towncored. I actually took this as satire on D1, but looking back, he has said it more times than I’d like.

@katze

what do you gain by saying this

@Marshal

the truth being out there

it’s fucking tru and u know it

Again tries to hard sell this weird statement.

@Marshal

idk what ur on about but it’s true lmao

i play FM i know how to do this

but getting towncored = conversion or n1 death and i want a town game to boost my cred for the whole champs thing

I agree on wanting to not get towncored to stay off the N1 casualty list, but it just doesn’t seem like he are worried about death or conversion, more like he is more worried about establishing himself.

@EVO

stop trying to sound towny

Marshal liked this post, which was in response to SDA’s post here:

@SirDerpsAlot

If I nail all the scum D1 its worth dying N1 lmao

I shaded SDA in the beginning (I have my reasons, but they weren’t obvious at the time) and Marshal seemed happy to agree and support the shade, regardless of whatever goal he was working towards. Seems opportunistic to me, but maybe i’m looking into it too much.

@SirDerpsAlot

No you said my tunneling withought explaining or giving you a chance to refute my reads sucked dick. Youre not refuting my reads just saying I was wrong before so Im wrong again

@Marshal

you aren’t giving me a chance

you are flurrying attacks at me with little to no basis

Marshal is put on the defensive, and seems to start what I now consider to be a scumtell of his; he redirects the topic, masking it as just another one of his quick and aggressive posts so that it does not look suspicious.

@Marshal

god i actually hardcore hate the MM buff because i’m not as confirmable

i could actually self-resolve if it’s cult

Apparently has a way to self-resolve if cult. So, some unique ability that cult does not hold. Earlier claimed Court Wizard, but idk if this aligns with that concept.

@Marshal

yeah actually fuck it

@Alice jail me tonight

if i haven’t self resolved execute me.

Bold, and I’m curious where this idea went; he didn’t ask Italy to do this…

@Napoleon

I skimmed thru your ISO and I don’t know why you are scumreading Marshal.

So why are you scumreading Marshal?

This looks weird for D1 Nappy, ngl.

@Marshal

ok im a dummi and my plan won’t say much

but i can hardprove myself as not neutral.

Admits to being wrong about being self-resolvable, but can prove as ‘not neutral’

@Marshal

ok wtf i can’t even do that

i think i can prove myself as not NK

NVM. This guy is all over the place.

@Marshal

or NK

exactly nothing

i can prove myself exactly 0.

dafuq i didn’t realize this i thought i had a 999999 iq play

Plan completely falls to shambles apparently.

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Misc/Nappy Weird

@Napoleon

/vote Ami

Since the thread has recently felt mostly villagery, I have deduced that you do not share any allegiance to the Blue Dragon

A weird pop-in here as well from Nappy (although I can’t complain, I was slanky D1 too)

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All of Marshal's Role-Talk and/or Soft(s)

@katze

So in conclusion: I think Marshal is claiming Physician. He said uhhh

@Marshal

yeah actually fuck it

@MukuroIkusaba jail me tonight

if i haven’t self resolved execute me.

So he inoculated someone and hes waiting for a bleed attempt?

Interesting idea but later refuted, that was not Marshal’s intent; but this shows Chloe is attempting to solve with Marshal, although I could see a scumteam here.

@Marshal

i will say the 5 or so classes chloe mentioned lock me in further

Just gonna assume at this point that I missed the post where he said he was joking about the Court Wizard claim lol so he is a nonclaim

@Marshal

ill give a hint from the soft i typed pregame

carl shoe

Anyone’s insight on this would be appreciated

@katze

I mean - I think I caught the soft? If I’m correct? But that could also be uhhh 3 classes. And one is killer. So… 2 classes

@Napoleon

The thread is pretty villagery therefore you are scum

This is honestly some different vibes than when I was in Vanilla Nightless with Nappy

@katze

And only one of those classes can kinda self-resolve so, guess im going with that one

Honestly would love to know your conclusion, as I am busy ISOing to care for determining his soft, if his soft is non resolvable that is.

@katze

But what im thinking of might count as a “code” so i’m likely wrong on his soft

@Marshal

@katze if it helps i am one of the largest shipowners on le planet

Hint to his soft.

@katze

Aight yeah im right

I think
im probably wrong but i have a good idea
time to kill you tonight

Is a killer role ig, I could have missed that earlier in my skimming

@Marshal

i originally made an elaborate CW soft with my actual soft in there and a secret message for those who are soft hunting

ok, but I scumlean you anyway, so if your claim is gonna be nonconfirmable then it means nothing little to me and I will ignore these posts from now on.

@Napoleon

I would read her as null but lol Prince!

@Napoleon

I use Burden of Proficiency to some standard so

Nappy being weird again

@Marshal

part 1

crazy thing happened today
on a zoom call for class some kid just goes
“uhhh Mrs. X, your lamp is on fire”(it wasn’t)
right as she turns around he gets a peice of paper that says “happy april fools”
today . Which is like 5 days after april fools

When he did this the teacher was pissed and rightfully so
I was laughing my ass off and so was most of the class
she just yelled at us and class resumed as normal
as it turns out, that kid is probably getting suspended . From online fucking school
really. no fucking joke. The school emailed his parents and everything
dumbass kid is getting a suspension on his permanent record for saying “your lamp is on fire”

part 2

can’t tell if i’m on his side or the schools
on one hand, it was a dumbo move, but on another hand, it didn’t hurt anyone.
childish… sure. Worthy of suspension? nah
kid’s parents are pissed at the school and he told me all of this through text.

ugh ok anyways imma steal aretes RQS question
what’s your most recent completed game and what’s the lesson u leared from it
uh also for soft… umm… carl shoe?

Tells irl story, but looks like breadcrumbing to me, but I haven’t analyzed it yet.

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General Comments

@Napoleon

For me my current townleans are:

SDA
Alice
Vulgard
Chloe*

• is a reminder to do some further investigation

Starting to look towny again, but idk

@katze

I still think it isn’t smart to just dogpile every protective BD on the Prince claim. Supports and people of the sort should definitely flip a coin. Don’t waste all our resources

Towny post(/Sellsword I guess?)

@SirDerpsAlot

Im gonna focus on making town reads for a bit

This seems like a towny post to me tbh, bad habit to get caught up in scumreading people with no towny reads

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Nappy Threatens Ami?

@Napoleon

Okay I have officially decided I’m gonna do something bad to Ami tonight

That’s kinky and all, Nappy, but wtf does this mean

@Napoleon

No I’m not worthy of being Arete

None of us are

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Marshal+Chloe Scum?

@katze

I’m thinking Marshal is V. His “softs” point him towards being something rather confirmable - yet not exactly a role I see Mastermind or Cult Leader choosing to confirm themself

Hes also not doing anything super funky so

This+Other interactions tell me that

Marshal = Chloe

but I may revoke that later

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Nappy's Soft

Redacted

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Me Being Sentimental

@Napoleon

@EVO

I miss you

@Wazza

we all do

I miss you too, BB’s <3

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Early Vulgod on Marshal's Behavior

@Vulgard

marshal kinda slightly leaning v but my reason for it isn’t good
it’s basically “he’s being dumb”
he’s called half the thread wolves already and it feels really dumb
however i don’t think i’m gonna have a read on him until he writes a villagery post
and i don’t think he’s written a single villagery post
not villagery enough to get me a townread on him anyway

This level of awareness is why Vulgod is Vulgod. I entirely agree, Marshal is strange.

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Vulgod+Marshal Interaction That Hints at Marshal Supposedly Knowing Something We don't

@Vulgard

i genuinely think i caught ami earlier and that’s why she’s felt so frozen

@Marshal

i know that’s false

@Vulgard

how so

@Marshal

can’t say

it’s my dirty secret

but u gotta trust me on this one vuldad

Very strange association between Marshal and Ami.

@katze

is this marshal language for “im groupscum with ami and converting vulgard n1”

Some of Katze’s thoughts/shades on it.

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Nappy on Why Alice is Towny

@Napoleon

I didn’t actually read the post where she hardclaimed Prince but I felt that the behavior alone indicates V just because I know how she hates dying n1

This does alleviate some of my worry for Alice, as several people seemed to have avoided being too towny before N1-kills rolled out, including Nappy himself.

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Vulgard on Chloe

@Vulgard

also i read chloe’s iso and it’s a giant string of mechsolving
she doesn’t seem afraid of posting but she also shitposts a lot
thinking maaaaybe not groupscum but could be neut (worst case scenario)
not sure if bd honestly. i’d like to see more than shitposts and mechsolving. i didn’t see a single read there and that’s a bad sign

Vulgod’s take on early Chloe.

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Brain Hurt

@Vulgard

god evo’s iso is awful who pointed it out first
whoever was first gets like 3 townpoints from me

@Vulgard

he’s being so careful and methodical throughout that iso it makes me cry

@katze

hes usually pretty obvious town when he’s town

although his NK game was moderately towny as well

Meta-shifts affect you too much

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[Wazza]

I don’t see you doing anything to help Town.

[Braixen]

If ritualist empowered CL eradicate that would also be a Cult Possibility

[EVO]

just got back from store and realized i never sent it

[Wazza]

We don’t know, why do you think I said if.

[SirDerpsAlot]

We shouldn’t spend half the day on why someone died especially this early

[Wazza]

What would be the point in CL eradding N1 and there’s only 1 death from CL, there would be 2 guaranteed deaths if Rit empowered killed and even so we’d be missing 2 kills.

[Vulgard]

I feel like Braixen and Derps’ reads on me aren’t real and Marshal revenge voted me.

[Braixen]

So then we can know if its a cult or unseen game

[Marshal]

yo is there something like a Tl;dr

[Braixen]

CL hits possessed in jail

[Wazza]

Once again,

Who the fuck attacks a high scumread?

[Possessed]

And I’m pretty relaxed here too. I have spats with everyone as both alignments and my spat is over

[EVO]

i wish

[SirDerpsAlot]

You don’t think half my reads are real then apparently