[FoL] Forum of Lies 27 - 10 day FoL (2/18) - Blue Dragon win

[Alice]

I have no idea. The entire wagon on EVO is downright nonsensical.

[Vulgard]

I’m not complaining that he’s not being wolfread/pushed, but it feels completely unnatural based on the info we have.

1. He was majorly wolfread day 1.
2. He was jailed and we’re missing a kill with him in jail.

[Napoleon]

Scrolling through the thread and a lot of shit happened while I was gone.

There’s no way EVO should be jailed. This is coming from someone who had scumslipped and someone who is also not a consensus townread.

Based on his D2, I’m fairly certain that EVO is Town, he’s playing active and aggressive while as a wolf he typically likes to sit back and blend in. I don’t see it.

@Braixen @ChopChop

What’s your logic for EVO being scum and for Chloe being a scumpal btw?

[Chloe]

Oh thank god

Thank fuck
People have brains

[Braixen]

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Yeah I aint buying this Hunter claim. Too convenient

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Lmfao yeah you aint Hunter bruh

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Alright so we have a lynch or jail target in the bag lmfao

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Time to see who Braix has been townreading

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Lemme yoink what i have on braix from d1

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

This is what i have on Braix from d1. Also note that he thought Hunter had retribution yesterday as well, and we corrected him there too. I can find that.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Can you hold your horses buddy

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

You were so sure it would be a waste of bleeds to wolf Wazza and now you are asking us who we want you to wolf. Just. Take a breather for a sec. Hold ya horses

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Why not just have the Hunters bleed eachother

@Braixen

Because then we would possibly waste all of our bleeds

@Braixen

Ok ill bleed vulgard/marshal

Who do you want

@Braixen

Hold up who do you guys want me to wolf

Yeah no me gusta

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

You are contradicting yourself, and you don’t know what your own “classcard” says.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Hold up dude, your convert might want some of those bleeds for later

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Honestly, if Braix is indeed Assassin/CL it is much smarter to lynch him today rather than jail him or have a BD Killer nightkill.

If he is CL, he will use the new swappy swappy ability to make sure CL is not jailed.
If he is Assassin, Mastermind likely has a way to make sure he survives the night.

The only good reason to jail or deal with him during night is if we think hes Demon.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Okay take a breath. If you are Blue Dragon, you want to take your sweet time before being executed. Give us all your reads so we can view them from a locktown perspective before you die. We still have over 24 hours before the end of this day - so we want to use it.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

i’ll yoink some d1 posts. to sum it up:

• he claimed some bullshit and contradicted himself by saying he doesnt want to waste bleeds, then bled you anyways (also he said bleeds plural - hunter has ONE bleed)

@Braixen

Because then we would possibly waste all of our bleeds

• He believes Hunter has retribution. He also said this d1 and we corrected him im 99% sure. Searching for it now.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

but like

your classcard bro
y u no read it

[quote=“katze_HYDRAYAYA, post:5486, topic:81126”]

@Braixen

Hunter is fun he has retribution

Bam.

@katze

@Braixen

he has retribution
[/quote]

FoL hunter does not have this anymore

Bam.

@Napoleon

no he doesnt

Bam.

@Wazza

no it doesn’t.

all day one

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Marshal is bled by Braix aaaa

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Honestly if we execute Braix today it will more than likely open a conversion slot (but we have all of d3 to figure out who else is scum before they convert again) - I’m going to re-read his ISO shit again for like the fifth time and see if he pockets anyone n shit

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

This is not a town PoV. You would want us to take as much time as possible before the lynch if you were town. You are truly digging your own grave, dude

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Braixen’s d1 Readslists

Details

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Along with this, if Braixen is scum like we believe, he would have to be Assassin/Acolyte/Demon if the bleed on Marshal is real - as CL has only one bleed no?

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Braixen

Bussed:

Definition 1: Getting Angleshot the fucking hell out of because of a misread
Definition 2: Having actual proof that a player is scum

Synonyms: Geting Fucked, Bandwagoned

@Braixen

Time to angleshoot the shit out of anyone

Just wanted to remind you about the third thing you posted
Also we did not angleshoot

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Braixen

Marshal edited his post mod kill

@Braixen

@Braixen

lmao he is actually reading back go to his profile page then refresh

Please don’t call us angleshooters when you have been the worst offender this game.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Don’t execute Braix until like at least 24+ hours from now. If and when we do lynch, make sure Italy is around and has someone selected

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

I’ve been so focused on the Braix shit

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

fuck now i really need braix dead so i can be 2nd in posts

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

aaa stop voting braix for now. we have so much time. he has nothing more he can say in his defense

just be patient

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Alice Do you mind unvoting Braix for now until like another day passes? I’m worried for hammer before some people even have a chance to speak

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

I’d definitely read through everything you missed. There are a few claims scattered around as well as an almost confirmed wolf in Braixen

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Do I really need to gather the evidence like… a third time?

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

The quotes below are where Braixen contradicted himself by saying he doesn’t want to waste bleeds, then decided to bleed Marshal anyways

[quote=“katze_HYDRAYAYA, post:6282, topic:81126”]

[quote=“Chloe, post:6230, topic:81126”]
The quotes below are where Braixen contradicted himself by saying he doesn’t want to waste bleeds, then decided to bleed Marshal anyways.

@Chloe

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Scum:
Braixen

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

If we lynch ami we need Braix selected by italy for sure

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

I don’t see any reason to pressure Braix further. We have no need to vote him unless we are lynching. He has given us all the info and defense he has

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

If you are Assa/CL/NK there is a high likelihood of you being occ immune - especially with MM changes. It isn’t worth the risk to not jail you

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Braixen

Wait we had 2 bleeds yesterday.

… you bled someone d1?

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

That was an admittedly bad vote - as I do not want to lynch you today. As I’ve said multiple times, I still believe the play is either the bounty lynch or a Braix lynch.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Braixen

he litterally claimed offensive

@Braixen

A while ago you claimed offensive

@Braixen

It is just the way you are acting

Buddy you’re losin me

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

@Braixen

If EVO really is butler, as he says, why wouldn’t he rb me n1?

@Braixen

Dodging the question -

@Braixen

Because EVO is scum and he keeps dodging my questions.

@Braixen

How about you stop dodging my fucking questions

Okay so this wagon is based on the fact that EVO is dodging questions, yes?
The question came out of left field though and was entirely untrue. I just read back and saw nowhere where EVO claimed

Braix what did you accomplish by trying to have him answer a question like this? Genuinely curious

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Braix trying the same thing on me as you did on EVO isn’t going to work

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

As I’ve mentioned before: lynching you or Ami is in BD’s best interest.

Quote

Watch Chloe just quote something random and say that all of this is false now

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

I’ve already said that I am fine with the EVO jail and possibly exe, but I still believe Braix or bounty is the lynch

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

If we lynch Ami, we jail Braix. If we get another lynch, we lynch Braix and jail EVO.

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

Just read all of it. Braix will try to convince you of things - and I’d rather you form your own opinions

@katze_HYDRAYAYA

I am indeed more comfortable with Braix being the lynch today. He is almost confirmed to be scum, and Italy can get information out of EVO. Braix has already given his defense and claimed

You sure you ain’t tunneling me?

[Vulgard]

@Napoleon

as a wolf he typically likes to sit back and blend in

How do you know this? Meta from a different website?

[Napoleon]

In Virtuous II. He wasn’t playing aggressively. He’s moreso the deepwolf type.

[Alice]

I still have my doubts on W!Poss as his actions here have been absolutely weird for a wolf PoV. Like, wolves don’t fucking put so much attention on themselves by getting into d1 scuffles with the King or trying to get a person to hard-claim like what he did to FolA despite the sheer amount of suspicion on him.

[Vulgard]

I know, but the threadstate surrounding him feels really off. He’s the easiest mislynch ever (assuming he’s V) based on his day 1 and the argument surrounding his imprisonment. Why isn’t he being pushed?

[Braixen]

He continually dodges my questions and anyone else’s questions.

Is that being aggressive?

No that is trying to blend in

[Alice]

Is this Poss that we’re talking about? What was his class there?

[folaccount]

One of the quotes in there makes it look like we have multiple Hunter claims. Is that possible or is this game an “only one of each” thing

[Napoleon]

He claimed Physician.

[Chloe]

If I had tunnel vision on you - I would have voted you by now, and not suggested the bounty lynch. I didn’t know bringing up evidence and calling our your contradictions was considered tunneling.

Did the meaning of the word change in the past few days?

[Braixen]

Yeah there can be 3 of each class

[Braixen]

You suggested the Bounty lynch so then you could kill 2 bds for the price of 1

[Chloe]

… what?

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

I know, but the threadstate surrounding him feels really off. He’s the easiest mislynch ever (assuming he’s V) based on his day 1 and the argument surrounding his imprisonment. Why isn’t he being pushed?

My best guess is that someone is being bussed, or the wolves don’t know who to target, but I’ve never been good at reads like these, which is why I’m phrasing this as a question for the entire thread.

[Chloe]

Do i need to re-explain why bounty is in BD’s favor AGAIN? You are making up things that I never said

[Napoleon]

By the way, we need to determine the lynch soon. If we have EK he could really screw us over now. We’ll need that extra time for bounty too.

@Vulgard @Alice

What do you think about Ami?