I will be honest and say that I forgot to do Braix and Ami because I was going to do them last. But I can still take a few hours and ISO them as well if need-be
anyways, one sec. prepare for madness
Actions
d1 - Allies Vul & Alice |
n1 - Swear Fealty someone |
d2 - Allies Alice & Napoleon |
Reads and Reasoning Good
Napoleon
Vulgard
Alice
Evil
Marshal
Braix
Readslists
Details
Start of day 2:
Votes
voted Ami for bounty
voted Braix after bounty
GT’d Braix
folaccount
No claim
Actions
Unknown
Reads and Reasoning Good
Vul
Said this however
Wazza
EVO
Marshal
Evil
Possessed (also views this as TWTBAW at one point)
Reasoning
CRich (SnakeEater)
Braix
Marshal
Squid
Readslists
Details
First:
Second:
Third
Notes
Did not know that bleed lasts 2 nights
Did not know about Cult/Unseen cops (asked if Paladin only exists in Cult game)
Brings up his experience in every other post
Super supportive of the bounty lynch
Votes
My thoughts Town
This slot is absolutely townie in my eyes. Asking questions in thread that could be very easily answered in scumchat - and seemingly genuine about them. This player was supportive of the bounty lynch along with me - for very similar reasons. The interaction between this slot and Possessed screams townie to me - as all of his points make sense from a BD PoV. He never gets overly defensive; he stays calm under pressure and provides rebuttal that is “professional.”
My Thoughts Town
Although I dislike that most of their reads have little to no reasoning, I still absolutely believe that this slot is town. The breakdown after lynching Ami seemed incredibly genuine and pure, and I do not believe this comes from a wolf, as it simply attracts attention.
Marshal
Claims Tavernkeeper
Actions
Details
N1: swap poss/italy
D2: dose wazza
waz=W
basically all of my d2 play has revolved around me trying to get W to bleed somebody. my logic is a few things. If W is cult in a cult game, he is prolly aco. what this makes me think is that if king was bled, they used the aco bleed, not the CL one. in this world if i dose W and a bleed goes through, it is confirmed that W is scum. the other world where this could happen is one where W is dmon who bypass my dose with his occ immune(not sure on this awaitng ansr frm hosts). either way, if W bleeds sum1(and it goes through) hes scum. I am very sure that he knows this. He tried to test the waters when he asked me what i would do if he bled sum1 and it didn’t go through, but i had to act obliv. as to not comprmise this test. I am thinking that he is in fact scum especially bcuz he swapped from i want to bleed to i will never bleed so adamantly n quickly. Evo backing W makes me think w/w. In cult game, always get W and look at evo upon the aco flip.
Reads and Reasoning Good
Braix - see notes for more
Ami
DryBones
Evil
Wazza
Vulgard - see notes for more
Possessed - scum -> townread -> scum
Readslists
Details
First
Notes
Claimed Warlock to try to bait evils into targeting Italy, to swap them to Possessed
Claim seems incredibly genuine. The bait on Wazza, as well as immediately asking Possessed what action he used (likely to see if it was self-heal?)
Details
On converts & possibility of Vul:
Details
^ didn’t even think about this tbh
Defense on Braix started very early (looks better for him IMO)
^ this was BEFORE braix claimed. below is the start of the push that caused him to claim
Thought I was Tavernkeeper <3
Brings up the possibility of real Warlock
Votes
Details
My Thoughts Town
This is town. It took me a while to figure it out - in fact, i spent nearly three hours ISOing Marshal only. First of all, if he weren’t town, he would be Mastermind (with Tavernkeeper abilities) or convert. Now, Mastermind does not make sense from my perspective because he started the defense of Braix very early, before Braix even claimed, and the attempt to get Wazza to bleed seemed incredibly genuine. He also immediately asked Possessed what ability he used, which adds up with the swap. The other possibility is that Marshal is convert. I don’t think this possibility is likely for the same reasons listed above, as well as the fact that he claimed Warlock at the end of d1. Any scum who converts a last-second neut claim would have to have the fuckin biggest brain ever. His tone hasn’t shifted much from d1, minus when he was defending himself from Vulgard, which… IMO his tone became more towny.
Derps
Claims Drunk
Actions
Unknown
Reads and Reasoning Good
Wazza
Napoleon
Possessed
Ami
Evil
Alice
Squid
Readslists
Details
Notes
softed drunk d1
^ possible deb on braix n1?
Votes
Details
My Thoughts Town/Null
This is a townlean for me - but I dislike the lack of supporting arguments for their reads. The d1 soft adds up with their claim. I mostly get towny vibes from his tone. This is more null than town, but a townlean nonetheless.
Italy
Claims Prince
Actions
n1 - Jail Possessed |
n2 - Jail EVO? |
Reads and Reasoning Evil
Possessed
Notes
Important post below:
Vulgard
Claims Non-Unique BD
Actions
Unknown
Reads and Reasoning Good
EVO
Wazza & Alice (Wazza became scum-read, see below)
Napoleon
Alice
Chloe
CRich
Evil
Possessed
Marshal
Braixen
On derps and Braix:
Wazza
Readslists
Details
Regarding Marshal, Derps, Alice, Braix - in that order:
W
Not sure but could be W/Neutral
Hard V
Re-evaluating
(i accidentally copy pasted this instead of quoted and i really dont wanna go back and look for it so… yea -Chloe)
Second:
Third
Notes
In allies with Alice n1
Never responded to my tinfoils ):
Mentions wolf-meta quite a lot, and how he isn’t acting within it
Claims to be non-unique BD
Votes
My Thoughts Null/Evil
Just like Marshal, I spent a shit ton of time reading through Vulgard’s ISO to come to this conclusion. I really want Vulgard to be town… but my gut is telling me he was converted night one. I noticed a shift in tone with how it interacted with me. It almost seemed super buddy-buddy, like he was trying to make me happy so I would vote and read alongside him. After the Braix lynch, I no longer think this is locktown. He and Marshal have completely opposite viewpoints and I agree much more with Marshal, and think that Marshal is more likely the townie of the two. It’s possible that they are W/W but they would have to be playing out of their minds to be pushing eachother this much, and almost lynching eachother. I just don’t see it. I also dislike how much he mentions his wolf-meta and how he isn’t within it. I find this odd - because he’s usually so proud of his ability to swap playstyles on a whim - so can he really have a wolfmeta? The only reason this is a scumlean and not scumread is because I’m almost scared to say I completely scumread him, for reasons I can’t quite put into words. He’s a good player and I want him to be a townleader, not scum, but that’s unlikely.
Squid
Claims “Important” BD
Actions
Unknown Reads and Reasoning Evil
Braix
Readslists
Details
Notes
Did not know about the bounty on Ami
On her claim:
Votes
My thoughts Null
Just like at the start of d2, this slot has barely any content, other than a few votes here and there. Not even a readslist, or a few people she finds to be townie. For this reason, she is a complete null for me, as I have nothing to base a read on.
Alice
Claims Hunter
Actions
Unknown
Reads and Reasoning Good
EVO
DryBones
Vulgard
Marshal
Ami
Evil
Braix
Possessed ( also thinks TWTBW
Derps
Readslists
Details
First
Second:
Third:
Notes
Thoughts on Derps
On Wazz/Ami
On kat’s death
Votes
My thoughts Null/Good
This slot has an incredible amount of information behind every read - and never swapped votes off of their original suspicion. I agree with practically all thoughts behind kat’s death, and I also agree that it is very likely Unseen game, from the d1 bleed. We mindmelded almost completely on the Braix vote, which gives her some credibility in my eyes.
My thoughts Null
My thought process is extremely swingy on this slot. He has been providing ample content, and I agree with his take on folaccount for the most part. While I don’t believe that folaccount is scum, I do think that Possessed was in the right here to out the potential soft. Truly, the single thing keeping me from townreading Possessed is the mechanics. He was imprisoned n1 with only one nightkill - and, along with this, Physician he a very easy fakeclaim.
My thoughts Null/Good
This slot is semi-null for me, but I have a townlean on it for a few reasons. First of all, we have very similar reads on Vul, which gives him some town-points in my book. Along with this, he claimed very very early into the game, and his interaction with Marshal regarding the bleed looks incredibly genuine - including the anger and frustration. He is in my nullzone as he hasn’t provided many reads other than those on Vul and Marshal - and I would love to see more.
Napoleon
Claims Noble
Actions
n1 - Bounty Ami |
n2 - Bounty Vul? | Is in Allies chat
Reads and Reasoning Good
EVO
CRich
Evil
DryBones (before claim)
Details
Chloe -> scum to town
Marshal
Possessed
Braix
Vul
Readslists
Details
First
Second
Notes
Confirmed BD or n1 convert - from bounty
While ISOing this slot, I accidentally highlighted his ENTIRE FUCKING ISO WITH CTRL + A AAAAAHHHH
Noble soft:
Votes
My thoughts Good
There is no way this is anything but town unless it was converted just this last night. The bounty on Ami went through. Along with this, he seemed genuine when he was concerned for EK GTing to waste the rest of the day. His thoughts are very similar to mine when it comes to Vul as well.
DryBones
Claims Butler
Actions
n1 - Serve Wine Chloe |
Reads and Reasoning Good
Chloe
Evil
Braix
CRich
Napoleon
Squid
EVO
Readslists
Details
First
Second
Notes
Interaction with Chloe
Details
Votes
Details
My thoughts Null/ Good
This slot has me confused. The “attack” on me seemed extremely genuine, which is why I have them as a townlean. However… they just seem to hop on every wagon without though - and this concerns me.
EVO
No claim
Actions
Unknown Reads and Reasoning Good
Evil
Wazza
Marshal
Braix
Readslists
Details
First
Second
Third
Fourth
Fifth
Sixth
Seventh
Eighth
Ninth
Tenth
Notes
Did a giant fucin wallpost (starts here):
loves to ping others (Vul quite a bit) for thoughts
posts a shit ton of memes
Votes
My thoughts Null/Evil
This slot confuses me. He’s acting so different from his recent Demon game, but I don’t know how he acts as groupscum. I dislike his read on Marshal, and I dislike the amount of times he switches votes. Along with this, he memes a shit ton. He loves to ping Vul for help, and I have a scumlean on Vul. Not liking this slot
Actually an excellent point right there, but you’ve heard this from me for a long while so I’m at risk of sounding like a broken record.
Yet… he didn’t push Possessed at all. That’s what giving me pause here. Why is Marshal not pushing his wolfreads? He didn’t push me over Braixen day 2, either.
I chuckled.
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And Poss is wolfreading Marshal back, yet still… same thing applies. I don’t get it. When did they stop wolfreading each other? It makes me think they were playing theater with one another.
And there’s also the fact I played a game recently where two wolves did pretty much the exact same thing. They hard distanced early, but when push came to shove, they stopped pushing each other and started treating each other like townreads voting-wise and all.
You should definitely say why you didn’t say a thing in jail. I pointed out earlier how it could be because you wanted to be executed and give MM to someone else.
And tbh this whole time I was evidently convinced Folaccount was Paladin or Cult and I was half right…he WAS softing his class and that’s why I wanted him to full out it.
