Well if he’s EK, he might not even be actually bled. We should expect some shenanigans from him before the end of the day if that’s the case.
You’re making a mistake towncoring him this early. He gets a lot of townreads as a wolf just by being himself.
Now that’s spicy. Please case him for me. And yes, I do read your cases and think about them. The only reason I’m not wolfreading CRich is because he’s just not playing like a wolf at his level most likely would be playing.
Like, I frankly don’t believe a CRich who rands wolf for the first time ever in his games here manages to perfectly imitate his town meta. I haven’t seen notable differences in his posts between his towngame and this game, and if he managed to achieve that as a wolf, I will be impressed.
He’s still a mechsolver above all else, and uses many more ToL concepts than necessary or even desired in a game of FoL, but that doesn’t make him a wolf.
His scumread on me is on false presumption and he refuses to acknowledge the idea that if he was softing paladin, scum caught it. He continues to ride this presumption while only listening to his take on the situation “because he’s this super experienced FM god” but it clearly shows he doesn’t understand the concept behind FoL, which is different than FM.
He won’t out any gamesolving info his class may present. He’s very likely to flip groupscum.
One way or another, I believe he’s with-holding info because he thinks scum might obtain it.
News flash: If he is, he’s already GAVE THEM THE INFO THEY NEED. ITS US THAT NEEDS THE INFO.
I think that’s the “thing” with reading Marshal. He’s extraordinarily good at being himself in a game of mafia. And his self happens to be quite chaotic (no offense), so what you get when he’s playing mafia is a wolfy villager if he’s villaging (because of the chaos, recklessness, and tunnely nature of his play); or a villagery wolf if he’s wolfing (no differences in tone, still chaotic and reckless, different POV but perfectly capable of using his chaotic nature to disguise his agenda). Players like him are inherently wildcards and notoriously difficult to read because of their emotion-directed gameplay, tendency to gambit and screw around, and highposting.
I’d say the best way to read Marshal is to see if he’s legitimately getting anything done. If he’s lynching villagers and nothing else, he’s wolfing (assuming he influenced the lynches in any way, but even if he seemingly didn’t, be wary). This also applies to katze and Firekitten. Their playstyle makes them near-impossible to figure out otherwise.
And I’m wolfreading him here because quite frankly, I think his attempts to form an u n s h a k e a b l e v i l l a g e c o r e this early on (day 1!!!) are agenda bullshit and not overconfident townreads from a villager.
Exactly why I SR him.
That, and his progression on his reads are all over the place.
And also because of a few other posts I’ve found wolfy, like preflips and attempts to set up chainlynches without flips.
I kinda felt like you two were disagreeing on principle, but I didn’t infer anything AI from that. In fact, I still don’t really see it… 
Its potentially AI because I believe he has game info but he’s with-holding it. Why? To appear like I’m correct without confirming it?
And the progression on the scumread is…awful. Alice feeding him made him think his logic is right, which baffles me because Alice knows that a class soft in this game is a death sentence if Protectives don’t pick it up.
I do want him to start posting more. If he’s a player with experience, he should be way more solvey than he has been so far. Lack of familiarity with the setup aside, it’s not like he can’t make social reads on people.
- Marshal asked to be bled
- I did now retribution was removed and I just misread what marshal was saying.
He did solve. He’s pre-flipped me as scum and told me I should “keep that info to myself” because he thinks he knows how to properly play a game where your life is reliant on the correct players guessing who will be attacked at each given night.