[FoL] Forum of Lies 29 - OVER (9/18) - CULT FOOL WIN

[ATNoName]

@Vulgard

PKR is so pure this game, I don’t get why town would bleed him.

I think I know a certain someone who could bleed him

[Chloe]

Vul have you ever been misyeeted

[Soulshade55r]

Currently I’m town reading Pkr fyi; I’ll be giving reasoning soon but I’m about half done

[katze]

i have two questions for mr. gard

1. do you think you’re playing differently this game than you typically do as a Villager™️
2. [REDACTED UNTIL ANSWER TO QUESTION_1 IS PROVIDED]

[Frostwolf103]

Italy reply Day 1

Chloe: 9
Amelia: 0
Vulgard: 0
AtNoName: 0
PokemonKidRyan: 2
PyschoKang: 0
Katze: 6
Arete: 2
TheBlueElixir: 1
Centuries: 1
Wazza: 0
Calculus: 2
an_gorta_pratai: 0
Frostwolf103: 1
SoulShader55: 0
Appelsiini: 0
Leafia: 0
None (himself): 8

Italy reply Day 2

Chloe: 3
Amelia: 1
Vulgard: 2
AtNoName: 5
PokemonKidRyan: 1
PyschoKang: 2
Katze: 9
Arete: 3
TheBlueElixir: 2
Centuries: 0
Wazza: 5
Calculus: 0
an_gorta_pratai: 0
Frostwolf103: 0
SoulShader55:0
Appelsiini: 0
Leafia - Dead
None (himself): 12

That’s what I got so far and unless you have good degree with mathematics and applying with methods to narrow down suspects, it isn’t going to be easy.

Nevertheless I do see a change on who he interacts who he haven’t did so in the first day compared to second day so far.

[ATNoName]

Even with math, there are legit town who have questioned what he was doing, so it won’t change anything.

[Frostwolf103]

Well you asked on who the other groupscum and convert are if there is one, AtNoName.

[ATNoName]

I didn’t want any specific people

[Soulshade55r]

Done the reads if anyone wants I can get another one done by EOD, In general this post was smaller then I expected beacause a lot of Pkr’s posts I’d find hard to make a read or it would be fluff but in summary PKR is a Town Lean but more of a Town Core due to the bleed for me at least

Summary

@PokemonKidRyan

This is how I feel except because there was no ping so I have everything to skim over.
Yay.

First post, fine generic one that doesn’t seem to rise anything which is generally NAI, I personally prefer the type of posts that will cause some actual conversation to happen ect. but I don’t expect everyone to do this.

@PokemonKidRyan

After individually ISO diving them I think each of them are town.
Therefore despite them not getting on too well they both are likely town.

I think it is easier to read someone via their individual posts rather than just reactions to others’ posts.

I wish this actually had some reasoning behind it it’s all good saying “yeah they seem good” but without reasoning I dislike it, like I’ve explained before in general I’m a more fan of reading a player based on their actual content instead of just a read from the “gut” I’m not 100% on knowning how PKR’s playstyle is but in general I find this lazy and a excuse to seem like a active town, it’s better if PKR gave actual quotes and responses to the posts that set him off to believe that.

@PokemonKidRyan

@Calculus

A JOAT isn’t in this game though?

Takes things seriously, it is a good look.
Other interactions with Katze in this post were quite good too, trying to establish meta, point out possibilities and avoid lockclearing.

A lot of Calc’s posts are about “Vibing” with certain things which I am taking to be a way of saying about weak reads or feelings. I do like that.
I get that some of them are based off jokes potentially too, however…

@Calculus

Don’t feel bad .-.

Time to try and read with a fresh mind I guess.

This is a good look from there.
Calc admits to how some things have been.
(I sense the vibes are a mix of serious and slight reactions to the jokey/meme posts)

I could be mistaken on this but I overall like it.
Some bold moves, but also seems relaxed and natural.
It is not forced like I think Scum!Calc would do here.

A lot different from the last post giving quotes to their read in general helps players understand what makes you feel a certain way, I’m going too in general skip over posts that are just “x is town because gut, I feel like that’s a waste”

@PokemonKidRyan

Facepalms
Well, we won’t explain so take your time.

Just going to use this as a example but I’m finding (Early on) that PKR in general is very “Fluff heavy” I’m not saying this is openly a bad thing (heck knows I fluff a lot without meaning too). but this is here if I miss a important post that I just skimmed over, in general Null vibes from all the fluff

@PokemonKidRyan

Appel I already explained.
I said recently I think that Centuries is a harmful neutral. Just from tone mostly within the posts.
You and Wazza are obv groupscum because you both are trying to distance and your reaction from earlier just proves I am right.

I kinda like the pressure Pkr gave here, feels like they want to create conversation at least and aren’t worried, they don’t need to be in “hiding”

@PokemonKidRyan

Wazza had 5 posts.
How could I make a read out of that?

Feels good, I like this, I dislike it when players make forced and fake reads, this doesn’t feel forced and feels like a townie response

@PokemonKidRyan

I want to be in the allies chat for a reason but I cannot really say much more than that.

I don’t mind this, seems like a Important or Investigative Bd play or a neutral who wants king to know either way I get a town read from this post also.

@PokemonKidRyan

/Vote PsychoKang

Placeholder for now

Good Pressure vote.

@PokemonKidRyan

@PsychoKang I want you to take a stab at what you think is going on.
Need your opinions to be said simply. I hope this does not seem at all offensive.

Futher Pressure seems Townie.

@PokemonKidRyan

Waz… just… please read up on my posts then.
As trust me if you cannot claim right now, then getting on my page is going to be important if you are town.

At this point I have no idea how to feel about all this.

This seems fine

@PokemonKidRyan

Tbf I read it in that time too.
Like, you could look at the list without opening any comment boxes and it would be a “readslist” that could be analysed somewhat.

I personally don’t understand how Pkr would read a massive wall post in under a minute but that’s just me, This post I am meh about honestly, I feel like they could have misunderstood me here at least but I personally don’t like the idea of giving thoughts on someone elses read based on such a short notice post. (Not directly at Pkr but I do disagree with how he felt about that).

@PokemonKidRyan

Princess. Killer or Offensive on PK.
I considered the chance of PK being innocent but I already scumread PK and so I was sure I should push it especially since it could be NK.

That way we reduce KPN and slow game to a halt which is an easy win this early on.

Noted, I don’t mind the claim as they found a Killer or Offensive.

@PokemonKidRyan

Guess who just got bled?
Its ya boi, the princess pkr.

Noted, this makes them seem way more Town like just for mechincal reasoning, but before this I was Slight Town Reading them, I personally don’t feel like they would be lying about a early bleed, but I’m thinking this bleed is more of a “distraction bleed”

Anyway in general I massively Read Pkr as Town right now, if it wasn’t for the bleed they’d be a big town lean

[Vulgard]

@Chloe

Youre also really frustrated and it makes me feel like a bad person

Don’t. My frustration shouldn’t affect anyone in the game like that, I just don’t want to be misyeeted with no resistance because “lol vul not villa.” I tried using arguments before, but “lol vulgard not villa.”
Sigh. Anyway.

@Chloe

Vul have you ever been misyeeted

Yes, after a false redcheck. That one was from a villager.
I was getting flashbacks this game.

@katze

do you think you’re playing differently this game than you typically do as a Villager™️

A bit, maybe? I’m trying to be more vocal. I’ve had enough of Cassandra-style games where I’m right but nobody listens to me because I have no thread presence. Apparently that just makes people vote me.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

@Chloe

Vul have you ever been misyeeted

Yes, after a false redcheck. That one was from a villager.
I was getting flashbacks this game.

You also participated in misyeeting me on day 1 in a turbo because I memed in my first post and apparently that was scum AI, iirc.

[Vulgard]

I don’t mind being misyeeted in general, I mind being misyeeted based on 0 tangible reasons and with 0 resistance.

But anyway, talking about this probably isn’t very helpful.

@Frostwolf103

That’s what I got so far and unless you have good degree with mathematics and applying with methods to narrow down suspects, it isn’t going to be easy.

Nevertheless I do see a change on who he interacts who he haven’t did so in the first day compared to second day so far.

Does that get you anywhere? Are you thinking Italy was converted for whatever reason or something?

[Frostwolf103]

@Vulgard

Does that get you anywhere? Are you thinking Italy was converted for whatever reason or something?

I didn’t say converted, even if I was Sheriff I would still wait to out until I found the other member that isn’t investigative immune

No I think Italy is potential mastermind who thought it was good idea to claim that class and exclaim in D2 opening to remind us that he’s softing that class

[Frostwolf103]

Like how did he know the kill on Leafia isn’t strongmanned?

[katze]

@Vulgard

@katze

do you think you’re playing differently this game than you typically do as a Villager™️

A bit, maybe? I’m trying to be more vocal. I’ve had enough of Cassandra-style games where I’m right but nobody listens to me because I have no thread presence. Apparently that just makes people vote me.

okay

question 2. can you towncase yourself this game :^)

[Soulshade55r]

Just reading my old posts (Half the time I don’t even remember what I say :^)

Looking back at my day 1 It felt kinda shitty with no actual reasoning behind it, my motivation generally was to create conversation, but I went nowhere with that

day 2, I have some fluff but I’ve given my opinions on quite a few posts, I’ve not contributed enough I feel like but I defiently “haven’t contributed anything”

[Soulshade55r]

@Soulshade55r

but I definitely “haven’t contributed anything”

But I definitely have not “not contributed anyhitng”

Hope that makes more sense god I’m bug brained

[Soulshade55r]

wow ffs >:I

[Frostwolf103]

@Frostwolf103

Like how did he know the kill on Leafia isn’t strongmanned?

To put this in his perspective: he claims to have targeted Leafia and did not survive this which in normal circumstances she should.

So why does he ask he’s wondering if Leafia isn’t strongmanned?

/vote Italy
@Geyde @Blizer

[Soulshade55r]

Did italy change their name or am I really stupid and missed that they were in this game