[FoL] Forum of Lies 29 - OVER (9/18) - CULT FOOL WIN

[Amelia]

Do you have anything to share now

No need for it to be a wall

[TheBlueElixir]

i die tonight so ill just organize it there

cent posting again and it looks good

kat/vul both are towny

thoughts wondering

[TheBlueElixir]

calc not posting

soul needs a look over in the wall

[Vulgard]

@Geyde @Blizer @Marshal

VC, please.

[TheBlueElixir]

PKR/appel is wack but I dont have time and im dipping

[PokemonKidRyan]

Since you liked it, I assume you do agree.
So I will continue.

My thoughts this game have been split into a few things.

1. Reaction tests
2. Softing my claim
3. Reevaluating based off the most pressing issues at the time

I know I have not yet really reevaluated your slot and I have blown up, but if I am being honest that is mostly because I have gotten frustrated. Idk whether I genuinely read you as town or scum or what atm

[katze]

mrrrrr

im still pretty sure that mechanics wise, Appel is almost always a Hunter

even if her argument right now is a bit it’s also mildly suicidal and illogical for a wolf to push a yeet on the nerd that bleeds out tonight

[katze]

I have 0 doubt that Chloe’s logs are real and they’re K/O, so they’re never a CL

(Okay, Transfer Essence exists, but I’ve already explained why I’m pretty sure Cult has no acolytes)

[katze]

In worlds where the Cult strongmanned last night then scum!Soul can only be exactly a Seeker/Apostle

figuring out whether or not they strongmnaned feels important because I’m still not fully convinced Arete was actually NK

[PokemonKidRyan]

@PokemonKidRyan

Reevaluating based off the most pressing issues at the time

proof of this, for you Appel is where I kept thinking about what people were saying about pk and exactly what I disliked about it.
Then today with the Katze and Vul thing. Despite me having a red check, I had to analyse the possibility of it being a frame. And if it is a frame, what it means.

[Appelsiini]

A (this time complete) ISO on Vulgard

@Vulgard

…I get weird energies from this post. But I got weird energies from AT all game when they last FoLed, and they were town, so tentative townlean.

@Vulgard

This is going to be another one of those games where TBE posts completely normally all game and everyone still scumreads him for nothing.

Soul is a villager.

@Vulgard

This looks really forced.

@Vulgard

Leafia already accusing someone of TMI hyper early is scummy, especially for her. She loves preflips as scum and the way she said it about TBE felt forced.

The way he’s handling AT & Leafia in 1st/3rd/4th quoted posts don’t seem like someone who’s pushing agenta, as Leafia’s first towngame where their meta really got defined was in Homestuck. Vul wasn’t there, so for all he knows, this is Leafia in their scum meta.

@Vulgard

These posts from TBE are what makes me think he’s being his usual free-flowy villagery self. He’s just posting random takes all the time, even thoughts which don’t lead anywhere / don’t make sense, because he doesn’t care about whether it makes sense. He just wants to post stuff, valuable or not, and that’s what he does as V.

@Vulgard

I’m surprised you think that. I think her posts in her last wolfgame and this game have been like night and day.

In fact, I feel like you’re being oddly… careful this game? You do have takes, but you present them in a really quiet way and I find it surprising how you seem to be attempting to fade into the background. Even your meming is relatively toned-down.

Are you doing that to promote game health, or is there another reason you don’t want to stand out?

@Vulgard

The gamestate feels like wolves among the “weaker” players, considering I’ve read most of the active posters as villagers. I’m townreading most of the active posters, I don’t think I’m misclearing anyone that way. PK might be a wolf, honestly, I’m waiting for PKR to clarify his check or whatever the hell he has. I’m voting AT because he shows signs of coasting and after I interacted with him (briefly), he just stopped responding. I feel like he’s a bit frozen and that’s why his posts are so weird. He doesn’t know what to do in the thread, and feeling unwelcome in the thread is wolf indicative for newbies.

There’s maybe a possible convert among the higher posters (that’s what I would do as a wolf who’s kinda coasting), but convert hunting at this stage feels pointless.

All in all, Vul’s D1 started out okay-ish, it wasn’t ObvTownVul™ but there wasn’t anything I actively found scummy either. I did take notice of how some of his posts were lacking in terms of explaining the thought process behind his reads, but he has picked up a lot in regards to this and it was still present during D1.

@Vulgard

Also, very high percentage of orange stuff. Orange stuff is basically commentary that doesn’t show what you think about alignment / actions. It’s the majority of your read.
You’re failing to form an opinion despite reading Chloe’s entire ISO, and it’s a problem.

@Vulgard

Like, the conclusion makes sense percentage-wise (mostly orange, some green, but more red than green), but it feels like you had a lot of trouble getting there.

I still don’t like how they didn’t really draw a conclusion after pressuring me, to be honest, since I did have content at that point.

@Vulgard

Literally how can I defend myself. 2 people have already FPSed checks on me, no one bothers to defend me or scumread my accusers, or even call their checks fake. Everyone who’s good at reading me is calling me scum, my posts are ignored by everyone and pretty much labeled “spew,” my slot has been treated by the entire thread as dead in the water coming into day 2. There’s no need for me to even bother at this point. I’ve said everything I wanted to say reads-wise.

Now, I am hoping you actually yeet a wolf instead of me, but if I get misyeeted here, it is what it is. Make sure you get rid of kat quickly since they are likely Scorned who might flip me as Unseen.

This is in response to Kat faking a redcheck on him. I’m not a fan of AtE, but he seems like a genuinely angry villager here.

@Vulgard

She has done the bare minimum this game. She posted, she gave reads, and then dipped. No commentary on anything, no interest in solving the game, nil. Remember how last time she was town in FoL, she posted more and actually caught several wolves in a row with redchecks? I’m not expecting her to do this again if she’s town, but I do expect actual engagement. I don’t even care if she talks about mechanics, I want to see investment in the game, and I’m not seeing that.

Amelia is a wolf wolf wolf. The only reason she survived D1 in JK9 was because her partner tried to powerwolf into a V yeet and was eventually yeeted instead. She just doesn’t do things as scum, it’s her MO. BotF was the exception, but in BotF she just spammed mechanical talk and got away with it (because a lot of people weren’t playing). So yeah. One exception doesn’t make the rule.

@Soulshade55r

@Amelia

you are getting wagoned. (Just incase they get a ping)

By the way, if Amelia is groupscum, this looks partnery.

Him pushing Amelia is a big m e h in hindsight, but it is true Amelia didn’t really do much so I can see this coming from both sides. Doing preflip reads while knowing the other is town is not something I think scum would do, because that would just be a waste of time and making Soul look better here.

@Vulgard

Appel is getting votes way too quickly, almost got yeeted right away.

If they were a wolf, I’d believe they would hop on the wagon that was on me unless they wanted to get towncred. In any case, this does look good for him.

@Vulgard

Claimed in a pure way, don’t think so.

Defends PK during EoD

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Overall, I don't see him pushing agenta and he has a decent thought process... which is actually problematic if I hold onto my belief that PKR and Vul are not T/W. Independently I think Vul is towny, save for one thing;

@Vulgard

@Chloe

also i kinda think the bleed on pkr came from town. pretty sure i know who did that

PKR is so pure this game, I don’t get why town would bleed him.

@Vulgard Why would you check PKR if you thought he is ‘so pure’? This makes no sense and is a clear contradiction.

[Appelsiini]

Also didn’t mean to respond to you PKR, bleh.

@PokemonKidRyan

proof of this, for you Appel is where I kept thinking about what people were saying about pk and exactly what I disliked about it.

I’ll go check that out.

[PokemonKidRyan]

@Appelsiini

@Vulgard Why would you check PKR if you thought he is ‘so pure’? This makes no sense and is a clear contradiction.

I think I know this answer.
But I will let Vul answer it.
Vul’s claim would say enough when I think what he might be thinking from his PoV.

[PokemonKidRyan]

Wait, actually, I think Vul literally already said this.

[Appelsiini]

He did? Could you quote it?

[PokemonKidRyan]

I am checking rn.

[PokemonKidRyan]

@Vulgard

Would’ve checked kat N1 but I didn’t feel like it, and N2 I had to check PKR because AT’s logs made him look like scum.

@Appelsiini it seems I remembered correctly.
It was because of ATs flip

[Appelsiini]

Ah, that’s fair enough. Then I don’t really have reservations about him.

[Centuries]

@PokemonKidRyan are you involved in any like

green checks stufff
i just woke up after having slept 4hours so like sorry if u said it earlier im just rly tired

[PokemonKidRyan]

Green checked by Vul, paladin.