[FoL] Forum of Lies 29 - OVER (9/18) - CULT FOOL WIN

[katze]

@katze

King

• an_gorta_pratai (i personally TR this)

Townreads

• Italy (most likely misclear of these 4, my standards are VERY low with Italy)
• Amelia
• Appelsiini (always kill Centuries before Appel, Centuries flipping non-BD makes this slots scum equity skyrockets)
• PokemonKidRyan (if no framing cult flips this is just a wolf but 3/5 cultists can frame so mrrrr)

Vulgardzone

• Vulgard

Not townreads

• Centuries (claims Chloe was strongmanned)
• TheBlueElixir
• Calculus
• SoulShade55r (never CL/NK)

in worlds where i just clear Vul/PKR/Italy then the 4 player PoE which should contain all 3 wolves is Centuries/TBE/Calc/Soul

but how sure am i that i can clear Vul/PKR/Italy

aaa

[katze]

tinfoil paranoia here

there is also a world where Vulgard is just the NK, honestly?

theyre the one i feel like is most strongly just saying “lol, Arete was NK”

[katze]

@Marshal

N1 - Will-o-wisp Arete - Blue Dragon
N2 - Will-o-wisp Vulgard

I am acting as protective, I wonder if Scum made a mistake thinking I am Physician, then they will stay away from me. I wonder if that’s what Vulgard want to convince us that Katze is Scorned, because he himself will show as suspicious.

i guess the game becomes

how much do i believe that this is something frostwolf wrote

because if we can answer that, we have the answer to the NK problem

[katze]

@Frostwolf103

It can be still unseen game I think since one attack is either occupied, healed or Knight defended someone succesfully but NK was on knight’s target and not got killed.

I may have something to do with that.

@Frostwolf103

@PokemonKidRyan

Does this mean you are claiming?

No, but the person I have targeted is certainly spewed not groupscum however I will be wary of their motivation.

@Frostwolf103

So anyway, the person I have targeted is nice enough to narrow down for me.

@Frostwolf103

@an_gorta_pratai

I don’t usually make early reads, so I have nothing to push

I am wary of one person who can be groupscum or randed town, just to keep tab on.

@Frostwolf103

In my opinion Vulgard has to be checked, so yeah

i think frosts logs are real

[Centuries]

My POV makes me believe it’s like we’re probably misclearing :^)

[Amelia]

It could be that chleb/frost got eraded and poss possed arete whilst just leaving them with no logs?

[Centuries]

All I know is strongman/rb/redirect/corruptingmodsbysendingguyfieripics is a thing

[PokemonKidRyan]

The only way that actually changes anything and gives us a chance is if Arete was Cult.
As then we would be a groupscum down instead of a NK.
If Arete was town then we are fucked

[Soulshade55r]

that means arete would have to be the convert unless hidden (if cult has hides)

[katze]

gonna color code posts as best i can

@Marshal

N1 - Will-o-wisp Arete - Blue Dragon
N2 - Will-o-wisp Vulgard

I am acting as protective, I wonder if Scum made a mistake thinking I am Physician, then they will stay away from me. I wonder if that’s what Vulgard want to convince us that Katze is Scorned, because he himself will show as suspicious.

@Frostwolf103

It can be still unseen game I think since one attack is either occupied, healed or Knight defended someone succesfully but NK was on knight’s target and not got killed.

I may have something to do with that.

this post in particular might need to be looked at closer idk

@Frostwolf103

@PokemonKidRyan

Does this mean you are claiming?

No, but the person I have targeted is certainly spewed not groupscum however I will be wary of their motivation.

italicized part might actually be a Sheriff/Paladin soft??? it implies theres still some room for neutral but mrrrr

@Frostwolf103

So anyway, the person I have targeted is nice enough to narrow down for me.

this still sounds like theres room for a neut check

@Frostwolf103

@an_gorta_pratai

I don’t usually make early reads, so I have nothing to push

I am wary of one person who can be groupscum or randed town, just to keep tab on.

@Frostwolf103

In my opinion Vulgard has to be checked, so yeah

[PokemonKidRyan]

What do the colours mean again?

[katze]

look at the top post (the one where i quoted frosts logs)

the colors in that post connect with the colors in the below posts

[an_gorta_pratai]

@katze

also im like 90% sure aretes flip was altered even though i was tinfoiling them as NK in allies chat

This is likely the case because I thought Arete was moderately town in allies, but then again anime FM

@katze

mmm that flip could be real but i really think its not

It most likely isn’t

@Amelia

@an_gorta_pratai claim now :^)

I am the King of the Blue Dragons

@katze

@an_gorta_pratai read post #365 in allies chat

let me know if you figure it out

I know what you mean I think

@katze

we’re going to yeet someone who isn’t Me/Vul

This is the best course of action and if Vul isn’t dead tomorrow then we execute Katze

@Vulgard

Nah, PKR is pure this game and I have a green on him. He’s town.

Could that not come from a fellow cult mate? I mean it’s easy to cover teammates like that

@PokemonKidRyan

Italy claims Katze and Vul are incompatible

What factors could make that incompatible?

@PokemonKidRyan

Wanted a RT out of Gorta.
But Gorta did not come online so it was ruined.

Here’s the deal, if you wanted to RT me it wouldn’t work because the KP indicates a cult game and we have some claims that can only shot up in cult games

[PokemonKidRyan]

Hey you missed quite a bit.
Do not be jumping to saying that something is best without reading everything.

[an_gorta_pratai]

also @Katze I will just say it, I SF’d Arete and Chloe and Cents requested that I didn’t tell them

@PokemonKidRyan

Do not be jumping to saying that something is best without reading everything.

I have read everything

[PokemonKidRyan]

@an_gorta_pratai

What factors could make that incompatible?

• Members of opposing Factions are not compatible
• Royals are not compatible with each other
• Members of Neutral Factions are compatible with everyone that they can win with
• The Scorned is incompatible with whoever they mark this night

[PokemonKidRyan]

@an_gorta_pratai

I have read everything

Then why the hell did you come to the conclusion you did when we are discussing everything as a whole?
To me it really erks me and makes you seem like you are pushing agenda somewhat.

[katze]

@an_gorta_pratai

also @Katze I will just say it, I SF’d Arete and Chloe and Cents requested that I didn’t tell them

okay i wasnt sure if you told them or not

(for those curious, i asked him at the end of allies to signal to me whether or not he told Cent/Chloe who they SFed, because they told us)

[an_gorta_pratai]

I am probably wrong about this, but both Arete and Katze seemed towny in allies, which is why I insist Arete’s flip was faked and that Katze is likely being framed. I know Katze is the master of fake claims and reaction tests, but I want to go with my gut on this one. From what I understand it’s easier to tell Katze’s alignment later. @Katze don’t pull a RM4 on me now

[PokemonKidRyan]

@an_gorta_pratai

I am probably wrong about this, but both Arete and Katze seemed towny in allies, which is why I insist Arete’s flip was faked and that Katze is likely being framed. I know Katze is the master of fake claims and reaction tests, but I want to go with my gut on this one.

Then literally everything you have said corroborates you being scum to me if this is “what you think”