FoL Interest Polls Thread

Ashe · January 16, 2018, 12:24am

As Hippolytus suggested in the FoL January Changes thread, we’ve decided to create a thread for gauging interest for changes in FoL. If you have a suggestion for change, simply reply in this thread with your suggestion, and we’ll add a poll for it ASAP, so that you and other users can vote on what you would like to see changed in FoL. I’ll start off with an obvious one:

Should The Fool’s passive “Poor Fellow” be changed?

Change Poor Fellow
Don’t change Poor Fellow

0 voters

If “Poor Fellow” is changed, what should it be changed to? (Suggest additional options if neither of these is satisfactory)

Option 1, current ToL version:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed before Day 4, the court will be unable to execute for the following two days, otherwise they will be unable to execute for one day.

Option 2, 1 day effect:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed the court will unable to execute for one day.

Option 3:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed by the court, those who accused you of treason will be unable to vote at all for the following day. Those blocked from voting do not count towards majority.

Option 4:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed by the court, players who voted you to trial will be occupied that following night while they are in mourning and will swear off trials the next day (cannot vote).

Option 1
Option 2

0 voters

New poll here.

Ashe · January 15, 2018, 4:52am

Icibalus · January 15, 2018, 8:05am

Alternatively we could give hosts the ability to not put in Fool, because we don’t have to stick too closely to the game, but still call it standard.

Hippolytus · January 15, 2018, 12:49pm

For vanilla FoL I think it makes it easier if every game is generated in the same way, ie with no host input, as it’s already p complicated without worrying about which specific classes have been included this game.

Moleland · January 15, 2018, 2:29pm

We need stronger host oversight. IE: Just because a game ‘Rolled that way’ doesn’t mean it should happen.

IE: - Max 4 neutrals, with a max of two NKs. King counts as a neutral if Cowardly, Evil or Devout. If there are four neutrals or 2 nks, King is never evil or devout. If there are both 4 neutrals and 2 Nks, King is always BD

orangeandblack5 · January 15, 2018, 2:32pm

How are there ten votes to change Fool, but then 4 votes for Option 1?

Edit: Misread question lol

Moleland · January 15, 2018, 2:38pm

Also, Alternative ‘Poor fellow’ passive

“If you are executed by the court, those who accused you of treason will be unable to vote at all for the following day. Those blocked from voting do not count towards majority”

Hippolytus · January 15, 2018, 3:54pm

Ca we have a poll to remove masochist maybe? It’d be nice to see everyone’s opinion on it.

(I assume we can’t make our own polls or it would be a cluster fuck)

Moleland · January 15, 2018, 8:53pm

Remove? It’s literally untested

orangeandblack5 · January 15, 2018, 9:35pm

Have you never played with an Unjester/Joker before?

It’s not as bastard as the Jester, but it’s somehow less enjoyable.

And in a game with Prince, I imagine it will be even worse.

Sketch · January 15, 2018, 10:58pm

Option 3: Everybody who voted up the Fool will be occupied that following night because they were mourning and will swear off trials the next day (cannot vote).

Moleland · January 15, 2018, 11:31pm

Seems better imo

Moleland · January 15, 2018, 11:33pm

Eh, I’m not convinced. Sure, it can get a freelo win off Prince, but if fool is removed, you can’t just be scummy mcscummyson and win, as lynching makes you lose.

Ashe · January 16, 2018, 12:44am

Since apparently I can’t change/add/remove polls on an existing post, I’ve made a new poll with the additional options.

If “Poor Fellow” is changed, what should it be changed to? (Suggest additional options if neither of these is satisfactory)

Option 1, current ToL version:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed before Day 4, the court will be unable to execute for the following two days, otherwise they will be unable to execute for one day.

Option 2, 1 day effect:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed the court will unable to execute for one day.

Option 3:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed by the court, those who accused you of treason will be unable to vote at all for the following day. Those blocked from voting do not count towards majority.

Option 4:

Poor Fellow (Passive) - If you are executed by the court, players who voted you to trial will be occupied that following night while they are in mourning and will swear off trials the next day (cannot vote). Those blocked from voting do not count towards majority.

Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4

0 voters

Ashe · January 16, 2018, 12:27am

Personally I would like to see it in at least one game before removing it, but I’ll put this here anyway in case this is a popular enough opinion.

Should Masochist be removed?

Yes
No

0 voters

Insanity · January 16, 2018, 12:28am

huh…

Interesting.

(Will my profile be too creepy?)

Moleland · January 16, 2018, 12:52am

I’d like to see it actually in a game. I got a freelo with it before, and that’s not a good reflection in the game

orangeandblack5 · January 16, 2018, 2:01am

While we’re at it…

Remove Fool
Keep Fool

0 voters

Might as well see what we’re feeling imo

orangeandblack5 · January 16, 2018, 2:26am

Also, while we’re at it, I should look at reworking the Kings.

Not a fan of their current implementation at all, in terms of deposing them. You basically can’t kill even the most obvious scum king for like two weeks.

Moleland · January 16, 2018, 3:42am

Has a BD King ever been executed by a majority BD court?