TR’s/TL’s
Arete
ATNoName
TBE
Centuries
Kat
PKR
PK
Frostwolf
Appel
Chloe
Nulls
Soul
Calculus
Gorta
SL’s/SR’s
Amelia
Italy
Vulgard
NK Candidate
Wazza
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Wait.
I have a 100% solid proof that Amelia/Vulgard are precisely starting scumteam.
It’s irrefutable. Amelia mentioned this first:
And then Vulgard said this:
they are likely Scorned who might flip me as Unseen
Coincidence? I think not.
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Both of their slots looked alright early on and then they just dropped.
Amelia is lower purely because of Vulgard’s interaction with her, to be honest.
Also if I had to decide Calculus is probably just town.
katze isn’t converted IMO
they are being open-minded and don’t look like they are active looking for ways to misclear Vulgard and move away from their scumread.
I feel like Kat would bus Vulgard at the slightest sight of weakness/scumminess, so he can’t be cleared on that.
@Napoleon
What did I tell you?
Here are the first actual arguments on Vulgard no matter how shallow.
not compelling enough 
tho by the state of things rn vulgard will probably be lynched here regardless
no one really has a problem with a vulgard lynch
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Yeah, Appel should be fine.
Also Arete’s inability to explain their own read on Vulgard is starting to get irritating.
Vulgard is getting better now and I think he’s gotten a feel for the game
Unfortunately it’s a bit too late
A lot of people are uncertain on him and it’s a bit worrying, but I think he should be the day’s lynch regardless.
Oh so Chloe might be S/I or K/O.
Probably S/I if we go over Wazza’s interaction with her.
And we are getting a delicious Vulgard lunch after all, it seems.
Also is it me or the whole “wagonomics” thing literally proves to be useless 90% of the time?
we should probably have a CW regardless of the main wagon for wagonomics
You propose to form a second wagon and yet you don’t give a target for it.
You literally out your intent meaning scum will be prepared to back up their votes with reasoning.
You do it so early that it basically doesn’t matter?
Like, every time it’s brought up voluntarily it’s just… a waste in my experience – but I have almost no experience.
I still think that you shouldn’t be calling for it, you should let it happen on its own.
This isn’t a comment on TBE’s alignment btw, I think he’s still town.
On a related note we had two bleeds today (TBE/PKR), meaning there’s a high likelihood of either a Hunter or a Demon existing – I truly doubt that CL and starting Acolyte would both bleed on D2.
With Appel being so insistent that PKR is scum, I feel like it’s possible that she rolled a Hunter again and the bleed on him is hers. He does have a ‘correct’ check though, but it’s nowhere near confirmed.
If I were in Vulgards position I would feel frustrated too.
There are plenty of good reasons to scumread him but none of them were presented. Most of them were gutreads or just plain weak reads. Can’t exactly argue against that tbh.
Also Arete is unconverted. Their push on Vulgard is agenda-free, regardless of Vulgards alignment. They are continuing to analyze Vulgard through their own perspective and convincing themselves due to reads that they solely understand rather than twist his posts or present an argument to try and convince others to lynch him. They’re not trying to so much convince others, but convince themselves.
This is precisely what irritates me right now.
He did so many things that you could point out yet the two strongest voices are literally just mulling around saying “but he doesn’t feel like town I can’t explain it”. It’s… disappointing.
I feel him.
And not reaching a conclusion
But yes, it’s pretty obvious that they aren’t converted.