Forum of Lies 30 - Night 5 (5/18) The Demon and Inquisitor win!

What is ISO?

Also where are the secondary chats created? Like e.g. prince jail or Priest

Prince Jail. This is through your own classcard, Mystic too if there is one, I cannot remember.

Priest communication and my allies chat will be via a separate private message chat on the forums I believe

Scum chat should be a private discord.

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An ISO is viewing only one playerā€™s posts in isolation.

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These can be accessed by clicking someoneā€™s avatar and clicking the ā€œposts in topicā€ button.

I had a quick scroll through an old FoL game, I am right in saying this is more reading players? there doesnt seem to be the claim train + posting logs meta of ToL/ToS

Nope, purely through reads.

Claiming isā€¦ not exactly what Iā€™d call an optimal strategy.

Yes, you would be correct here. Itā€™s generally discouraged to openly claim here without an extremely good reason, there was a debate on that earlier in the thread if youā€™d like to look at that.

But it would be okay to claim say if im in jail or allies chat?

Jail is a must since the Prince is a guaranteed BD.

Allies chat depends if you trust the other player.

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Those are special circumstances so the ā€œdonā€™t claim unless absolutely necessaryā€ meta isnā€™t as enforced there.

Should i claim if I have a lead?

ā€¦yes, if you can clear someone or have a red check on them then claim. Otherwise, donā€™t.

A red check here is meant as the result of an investigative ability clearly showing someone as scum.

Prince always should jail someone as that helps clear or incriminate people based on missing night kills or if there are night kills, it can rule someone out as being a particular killer.
For example: Prince jails someone and another person dies to Assassin.
Then the Prince knows who they jailed is not assassin for example.

Jail is one of the best investigative abilities in the game.

Iā€™m liking the Chaos slot a lot better here, itā€™s reminding me of my first games as newbtown trying to get all the information I can.

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Real, I think theyā€™re just BD here.

Would probably go for Insanity or the lowposters tomorrow.

Richard

Nai opening. slight like to pointing out errors of last game.

Eh protectiveā€™s exist for a reason and Duke that gameā€¦ Lets not say itā€™s sus for someone to survive ā€œtoo longā€ but lets keep in mind the existence of certain classes if theirs a reason to believe they do exist EG: cult how can bypass protection ect.

This is fine I wanna see how make richard repeats this talking point

Early reads this bumps up my impression that richard wants to try and be a active talking memeber come across as non-important bd (Prince/Priest/Mystic) would ideally be a little more less vocal But I also think it could come from scum trying to make a nice impression going to leave if for now most likely more of a reason to ton read richard

We do need the king to be active and help us lets not let king call all the shots though imo easily itā€™s so easy for a dumb bd to sheep with a ek imo lets work together and let king be our voice and main pressure but not without discrediting what they say and make sure to make our on reads.

Obviously Peko

Meh it was clear eevee was going to sit and be useless Day 1.

Something we need to look out for honestly conversion always throws me off Ideally I wanted to start making reads d2 for this reasonā€¦ Might aswell give it a shot ā€œacting townieā€ we do need to look at convert targets obviously I personally think scum likes to go for the Town reads but not the Strong Town reads (because making people convert immune or reading whoā€™s a obvious convert ect.

Solid town leads for solid reasoning personally havenā€™t even started reading them based on that.

Wish youā€™d explain how the tone feels off. A lot of people type/play differently sometimes I think you might actually just be misunderstanding and itā€™s all good to say ā€œsomething feels offā€ but I donā€™t really agree with it.

currently I feel like Rune is Town as well it could all change and I found their weird ā€œif Iā€™m tk im killing you n1ā€ thing weird

This is somewhat true but I do actually find that town sometimes falls under this issue as well when theirs a lot of Info stuff can just become messy Itā€™s good to take a step back and clear your mind from the game but I can be very forgetful.

both wolf and town do this lol insanity post is weird on thatā€¦ I could see insanity be neutral evil from what I have seen but Iā€™ll take a look at them later they havenā€™t posted anything of use from what Iā€™ve seen.

agreed meta helps but isnā€™t the main reason you should read someone.

I can see why you see that wonā€™t really comment on if Iā€™m neutral or BD (Wolfs might waste a convert owo)

nah if I was chancellor I wouldnā€™t be aggressive maybe I could just say this in turn but it doesnā€™t feel very planned out

I find it hard to find reasoning behind just that anyone can easily ask people to try. I would go against that it actually helps d1 it makes reads more forced because you have someone screaming at you to make reads so scum are going to be more inclined to make reads ect. I dislike you having to agree with the easy road and would like you to comment on what makes you think rune is town other then asking for contribution (aka what other posts make you feel that way about him).

Youā€™ll find my posts are either small contribution that isnā€™t enough or large contribution I like to focus on one player some sometimes Iā€™m only going to make comments on myself of my intentions I think people know itā€™s pretty normal for me.

Define whats protown. I dislike the simpleness to it

Donā€™t out stuff like that for obvious reasons framers and stonewall exists for a reason

meh its early game Rune can easily change, obviously itā€™s good to protect important talking players donā€™t think itā€™s heathly to talk about it thoughā€¦

Overall seems pretty solve heavy although I do think they should actually provide why that is so I find that they have been buddying Rune a lot as well I do want them to make more detailed reads on rune instead of ā€œx is townie likeā€

For now Rihard doesnā€™t seem too off putting so they are a Town Lean for now but I can see this change depending on how they act

Richy boi I rined your name