In fact, we’ll likely vote you before Orange in my plan.
As, while one of you is bad.
I have a gut read on you being Mastermind and Orange being the Assassin with Jammy being Duchess.
I could be wrong about Jammy, I know, but I’m using my reading skills now.
That’s why I want her executed, so that then I know the final people to go for.
@JammySplodge @gingerbeardgentleman either way, you’d be the only two with noble blood.
So please, I beg for you to work with me and let me win with you, don’t take King spot afterwards.
I’ll vote for Hippo tomorrow.
Just let me take over as King now and let prince execute you Jammy.
As you know, you’re not confirmed either way and if you die and flip either way, that information will give us the win as BD.
Alright, I give up.
I was going to try and double-cross the BD, but obviously PKR managed to pull wool over your eyes, and my wincon forces me to not get executed, so.
Anybody who considers that he’s the real Neutral should remember a few things, namely:
1: He didn’t CC Frostwolf
2: If I was his target, why would he be trying to lynch me?
3: I’m essentially proven Neutral, for all the same reasons as when Frost CC’d me
4: PKR has been softclaiming an important BD role this entire time and insisting that the reason that he didn’t claim was because of this. Claiming Neutral nullifies his own argument for not claiming earlier.
Anyways, I’ll stop lying now, since clearly my chances of winning with the BR have once again dropped below my chances of winning with the BD. PKR is Illusionist (duh), Hippolytus is Mastermind (as he was RB’d by CW, nobody else has been converted), and gingerbeard is incapable of listening to reason. 
Anyways, listen to @JammySplodge and @Moleland. They’re both confirmed BD, and they both know that what I say is true. I just simply cannot follow the BR anymore when PKR keeps doing things that would severely decrease my chance to win if I follow his plans.
It’s almost like the Black Rose wants to lose this game.
In fact, PKR was also advocating letting me be King because I’m Neutral, but now he says that he should be King instead. Funny how that works.
Orange, everything you’ve listed is consistent with PKR being mercenary on you.
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of course not; there were already two people in that claimspace.
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to get a better target.
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nope. you could easily be BR.
4.yeah, that’s in his interests.
and PKR would have pushed for your kingship because it helps the chances he wins once you get the spot.
Yes, I was doing everything to support him.
I’m sorry, I was a scared neutral.
Anyway @orangeandblack5 I’d go for Hippo before you.
So you’ll survive a long time no matter what.
Please ginger, let me win…
Are you willing to follow my plan?
@gingerbeardgentleman if so, my plan is the following:
Vote Mole, become King
You jail and execute Jammy.
I’ll vote Hippo.
The only problem is, we’d have to let Orange perform his actions and I’d hope he’s not the best assassin.
Although his last kill was certainly clever.
Literally we’d be fine
Killing the others would make us win with info on our side
Listen to me, please
Everyone needs to trust me here. I wouldn’t have CCd if I didn’t need to.
Simply said, I just exposed the bad guys within my claim
Sorry for having taken so long though, I should’ve just claimed quicker
Orange isn’t going to be killed immediately though, I’m sorry for that
Also, I’d be willing to change order if you wanted me to Ginger
Blatently, I’ve been leading town
5 votes are on our side with me working with BD.
You need to give me a chance to prove myself
Or else, I’m going to be sad again
Understood, Prince?
Will you please let me do this
I’d appreciate it a lot
Look… It’s 1 sacrifice for 2 victories.
Literally, I’d win and work with you
Like, what else would I do?
I’d owe you the victory after the kind help
Victory would be ours…
Even if Jammy turns out to be innocent after execution, as we’d have info.
Sorry if I’m annoying you with my long posts.
But, you don’t get how important it is to me.
To be able to lead as a neutral king and win with those who helped me
This is legitimately hilarious
I’ll just wait for Jammy and Mole to get here tbh
@PokemonKidRyan as we found out last game, the only thing you care about enough to rant on for several long posts is winning the game 
I’m going to rant because I have officially caught you now and I want my victory.
I’m going to work with BD after this night has ended.
As I’ll be King by then if they let me become it.
ultimately it doesn’t matter though.
1.given polik’s will, we know that either A. Jammy was converted n1, or B. There is an illusionist in game.
2.We know there was a psychic d1
3.Moleland, Rogue, and I are all definitely BD, and all definitely not the psychic.
4.Nerbins must have been observer yesterday, due to accurate follow. Him being nightwatch doesn’t square with polik’s results.
5.Orange can’t be the psychic>illusionist>assasin; he was jailed n1. He can’t be the unconverted psychic, tardispaten heard the psychic n1.
6.given 4, jammy isn’t the psychic>illusionist; Nerbins confrimed a slap.
7.Hippolytus isn’t the psychic>illusionist>assasin, he was jailed last night, and there were two deaths.
8.given 6, jammy started the game as princess.
9.given 1, the mastermind was not roleblocked n1; either jammy or the psychic was converted.
10.given 9, Orange is not the mastermind.
11.There are 8 people currently alive. Given 3, 4, 5, 8, and 10, None of the following people are EITHER psychic/illusionist or the mastermind: Orange, Jammy, Nerbins, Rogue, Gingerbeard, and Moleland.
12.given 11 and 2, both the psychic and the mastermind rest between PKR and hippo.
and finally…
13.given 12 PKR is lying about being a mercenary.
@PokemonKidRyan , if you can weasel your way out of that one, I will be VERY impressed.
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Ummm, how is Orange not the Mastermind?
Also, I have no need to weasel my way out of everything.
Furthermore, couldn’t psychic had been converted N2?
I think Polik announced the thing on Jammy Day 3.
Secondly, it would mean that if they cannot be the Psychic, Orange was Mastermind and no conversion happened night 1.
I would’ve claimed BD if I was BR logically.
Claiming neutral would be a foolish play.
Logically speaking my claim fully makes sense too.
dead court wizard said she Iced Orange n2. I jailed him n1.
we know a conversion happened night one or night two because of Polik’s results and Nerbin’s slap confirmation.
@gingerbeardgentleman isn’t it possible then that Orange was only recently converted and someone else was converted before?
I hate to say this, but still explain why my claim makes no sense and why I would even claim Merc instead of a BD role and pushing for mislynches?
yes, but I’m not trying to prove that Orange is good.
I’m trying to prove that you are lying about your merc claim.
and, as you like to point out, sometimes BR does dumb things because BD doesn’t expect BR to do them.
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@PokemonKidRyan because it’s your only option after doing the single most predictable thing you could possibly do N1 and then having it backfire when Frost told Hip to convert you?
But yeah, Post of the Game goes right here:
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/forum-of-lies-4-day-4/1224/1854
(At least, excluding my posts :P)