Forum of Lies 9 (BD and Mercenary Victory!)

so you were occupied and immune?

@Wolfy it’s not possible for there to be more Cult, Any cannot roll Cult after FoL7.

My bet is an Electrocutioner, personally.

Also, I can personally confirm that Ashe is Mercenary @Sketch

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Wait, how do you know that Orange?

that was me; still dont trust you
sorry, its true, but i wont cause extra confusion by saying it wasnt me

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Simon, you do claim Butler right btw? I can’t remember if you ever outright stated it.

yes

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Okay, now with that, all I need is a hard claim from @JammySplodge and then I’ll pick my contract. Because assuming that she does claim an investigative class, that means 1 of 2 things. Either she and Noz are both bd, or they are both evils of some description. I’m also interested in knowing why @orangeandblack5 could personally attest to me being Merc.

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I said I healed Wolfy and Mole

I meant just that

There was no N3 heal because I was blocked from visiting my target

Aah, that makes sense.

Also @Ashe Jammy claimed Observer

So we lynching Sketch?

I was thinking about it, and because Rope was actually Fool, and Acolyte just disguised him, there should have been one more cult remaining, if they managed to convert twice. I think it’s more likely that there are remaining cult than only an nk. Assuming a conversion happened on night 4 or 5, there are now two cult members. If that is true, out of the 7 players in the game, 2 are cult, I’m neutral, and if the non-cult are telling the truth, 4 BD. But, when looking at previous earlier FoL’s, the pattern is clear, one nk (The Demon, in this case), one neutral that isn’t a killer (me, the mercenary) and one random neutral. Assuming the class list rules remain the same, one of the BD claims is likely a neutral, whether that be a killer or not. If I were to make a few random guesses, I’d place it on either Orange being Alchemist “under the radar” as to help his chances of survival, Simon being Fool, or Wolfy being some variant neutral and now being the cowardly/mad/psycho king. Now, assuming that there is in fact another neutral than me, that means whichever side has the support of both neutrals will currently have majority. For me, the best possible scenario would be to know who’s who in this situation, if this is what we are dealing with. It would be preferable to me if the other neutral exists, to announce their presence. In almost all of my examples, the situation could resolve itself. Examples being:

  1. If Orange is Alchemist, there isn’t any reason not to come out and say it. I can contract him, and we can both support the winning side.
  2. If Simon is Fool, he can say so, cult can come out, I can contract a cult member, and we would have majority to lynch the Fool, and pick off BDs in the coming nights. Sorry BD friends, just hypothetical anyways :wink:
  3. If Wolfy is Cowardly King, he can use his voting power to dictate who wins, and I contract a member of the winning side.
  4. If Wolfy is Mad King, see 2, pretty much the same deal.
  5. If Wolfy is Psychopathic King, that would mix things up the most, since there would now be 3 sides. Of course, since I can’t contract the King (nor would I want to support a lone killer generally speaking) this would be the worst scenario for me.

Sorry for the ever-expanding wall of text, hehe. But if I’ve missed the mark and there are no remaining cult, or something to that description, it’s as easy as contracting a BD claim (probably Jammy) and taking it from there. I’d appreciate if people can start poking holes into what I got wrong, so that I can narrow down what target to pick before the end of the day.

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Jeez, I just realised my mistake. Rope was the other neutral. However, I saw in some lists there was an any space, so most of that still applies.

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After thinking that through again after realizing my mistake, but still assuming the cult lives, there are two scenarios. (assuming I didn’t hit right on the mark of another neutral still being in the mix)

  1. Cult converted on Night 4, and can convert again tonight. As all the BD claims are convertible, it’s likely that in this scenario the cult to BD will be 3:3 by tomorrow. Depending on who I contract, it could go either way.

  2. Cult converted on Night 5, and still have to wait a night to convert. In this scenario, depending on who is lynched today and who I contract, BD is likely to win.

With both scenarios having a fair chance for BD to win, I think I’ll contract Jammy soon, unless there are any objections to that. Also, I can’t remember seeing it in the rules, but I hope my now triple-post is okay.

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I wouldn’t be any of those kings, considering I became King from being the Court Wizard.

But yeah, I think contracting Jammy would be a good move by you.

Yeah, I missed the mark on my neutral guesses since I forgot that Rope was the 3rd, and I’m guessing it’s not an any scenario.

Agreed. So what’s the consensus then?

I think that would be that there are still 1-2 remaining cult. For who it is, I’ll go through each individually.
Let’s say for examples sake that you are indeed BD king, because if you end up being the only remaining cult, you wouldn’t be very hard to deal with, and I also wouldn’t think that in a 2 cult situation, you (EDIT:) wouldn’t* ask to be king.
Jammy seems to be the strongest claim of observer, backed up by Noz checking her and finding her as investigative. I’d say if one of them is cult, the other would be too, but that doesn’t strike me as likely.
Sketch has been fine with the idea of being executed, seeming to value the confirmation that he is BD more than staying alive, so he is the next strongest claim.
The next would be Simon. I’m pretty sure that he has to be BD, since he tried to block you last night, but failed due to your immunity. Invoker can’t occupy in FoL, and it isn’t a cult points ability.
That leaves us with Orange, who claims physician, and also claims that he couldn’t heal Mole due to my guarding one night. I was hesitant to make him my weakest claim, since he vouched for me, but that could mean a number of things, so I think that leaves him as the most likely cult. Also, I noticed he tried to steer away from the potential of cult, favouring the idea of an electrocutioner in the game. Perhaps trying to hide himself?

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So two unconfirmed people
Orange and Sketch. If this is right. It doesn’t matter who we lynch. We have a butler to RB the other, my gut says Sketch is more sus than orange. We lynch Sketch today.

That seems fair, and I’m pretty confident that even if I’m wrong about which team she’s on, Jammy will end up winning this game. :wink: So I’m going to go make that contract.