That’s what I said - new FoL meta should be to pressure kings day 1 like that and possibly test if they are suspicious.
Stop depending on the King, let the poor guy guard himself. Theres multiple classes that stops conversions
I count that as Depending on the King cuz you are legitimately going to get him killed because of yalls needs for a N1 Debt when there are 3 other classes that can stop a convert. If someone claimed Phys/Alch and would heal the King then Im all for it but its stupid to get a possibly Neutral king killed just because yall wanted him to use something other than guard. I may be a new player to FoL but it even sounds stupid to me trying to get killed at night for a negative effect guard, heck there might not even be someone to do a negative effect on him to confirm it.
That’s not the point still. We’re trying to potentially prove the King’s alignment as BD. And also, as Eevee said,
Everything exists for a reason man and why so obsessed with a BD King? A neut king is cool too
Because BD King would be immensely helpful, especially early on.
I’m convinced it’s a good enough reason to at least consider a plan like that.
Cool for now, and cool if they agree to play nice
But if they don’t?
Plus, more info is always better.
No what have fun with any consequences, Im not going to bother doing anything against the King until the King does something idiotic or evil. I know whatever I say wont change yalls minds cuz some are thirsty for the blood of a King 
We should do the occupy plan. We can’t afford to keep an Evil King, and it might even be worth ridding ourselves of a Neutral one.
I think we should get a Butler/Drunk claim, just to avoid false positives.
Unless Moleland claims Neutral, then we kill him don’t need this plan.
One thing I would say is the second you start using an ability to metagame, the second the ability is removed.
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