Game mode for advanced players

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#21

Here’s the long and short of it IMO

Nobody would be against an advanced complex ranking system… if it worked, if it avoided the “hell” problems that come from trying to judge people on the games they are in. The problem is coming up with a balancing system for that would take a very long time, and most likely involve many many failed iterations.

A “you must have played this many games” is a much simpler solution, that still accomplishes 75% of the point in a ranked system. As at least in my opinion the difference between a new player, and an experienced player, is 10x larger than the difference between the averages of experienced players.

#22

or just scroll up? It’s not what I said its the fact that you misread it multiple times.

Yeah fair enough I still think a leveling system is better though for multiple reasons.
stats in general would be nice to have.

#23

Yes I do want this over some stupid complex system, ranked is bad

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#24

I read it too and I’m still lost, rope. Who knows what he meant.

#25

I can’t play ToL anymore until there is an advanced game. I like ToL, has been my favorite game since bought it beginning of summer, but the people…

game after game, they just act so stupid. I could go to a mental asylum and for more rational people.

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#26

Ranked system will never work in this game, because there is just too many situations in late game when neutrals simply decide who wins - BD or Unseen/Cult.

#27

well there’s been suggestions for things like the bulk of the weight going on things that happen on your team while you are in it, Mixed with individual accomplishments etc… But that still doesn’t solve what I consider the greater problem. an OK player in a good team, will massively outperform a great player in a bad team, by all metrics. If someone is misfiled into an unskilled rating. Or if they legitimately earned a bad rating, but got better… no algorithm would be able to identify that they need to be recatagorized.

Even as the roles that can carry normally, say prince… it only takes 1 BD player that thinks acting like a fool is a brilliant play to keep unseen from killing him… to neuter the princes abilities.

#28

I don’t want a complex system to determine rank. I just want a game mode that requires either a certain amount of games played or gold to unlock

#29

That gamemode could be more difficult, or say, more rewarding in terms of gold.

But at the same time, should be somewhat extended.

A gamemode where you sacrifice 10k gold ? to unlock?
or when you reach
x amounts of wins this gamemode is unlocked?
or total x games played (1,000? 2,000? 2,500?)

But, even then. how would it be different? a SR? system?
You win 100 gp + 10 sr?
1-100 sr (squire) 101 - 250 (knight) 251 - 350 (paladin) 351 - 500 (noble) 500 - 1000 (royal)
@Ellie

#30

why are you pinging boslof?

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#31

Considering you can buy gold this seems pointless over games played.

Losing doesn’t mean you’re bad though, games played is better but the amount you’re giving seems a bit much.

I don’t see why this in particular would need to be any different, people just want to play with people that know what their doing. I’m sure most players would be happy to get no gold from games just to play this.

Perhaps it could match people with the closest range of games played e.g. 50-100 games(played) players would try to match with others in their range within a time before going to the next range and so on, so people will match with similarly experienced players.

#32

Exactly. That type of system doesn’t exist, and never will.

It’s not worth your time to try and come up with some magical “perfect ranking system”. It’s a team-based conversion game with hundreds of outside variables, we’ll never find a system that avoids the issues inherent to this setup and I suggest we never try.

If anybody really wants to, I won’t tell you not to waste your time. Just be aware that that’s what you’re doing, plain and simple.

#33

I’m with you. I play it less and less. I just can’t handle the stupidity. I will plain as day spell it out to the news and they just don’t get it. The other day we had all unseen dead by d4 and reaper dead n3 from poison. With no unseen deaths until n3. So that means there were zero converts and the game kept going. Everyone being dumb as they are kept thinking another assasin. Even though two other confirmed BD players with smarts said it is king and told them exactly why. Even said MM was reaped n2 so he couldn’t have converted. It finally ended d7 after everyone killed everyone else and ended up being king and a BD. BD won because a butler poisoned the king d6. King died and ofc he was evil. I got cancer from that game. People JUST don’t listen to reasoning. That is a culture and society problem man.

#34

I think it is okay to allow someone with enough devotion to the game to buy gold on it to play the advanced version

#35

Maybe so but I’d rather they work towards it

Still think a leveling system would be cool.

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