Give Me Neuts (NKs need not apply)

Class/Lore/Fanfic
#50

What about The Cult? I’m assuming he can’t be converted by Cult or somethin’

#51

He would become a ritualist. Or the shadow could be made into an unknown support

#52

The Trickster

Neutral Offensive
Subterfuge (Day) - Discover targets exact class and who they visited last night. 1 use.
Mimic (Night) - If anyone targets you with an ability tonight they will instead target themself. They will not be informed of this redirection. 3 uses.
Sleight of Hand (Night) - Swap two targets. Neither they nor others who target them will be informed. Cannot self-target. Unlimited uses.
Goal: Live to see the Blue Dragon’s demise

I added the day ability as it will need a decent fake claim to survive. It’s main focus is just to cause chaos.

#53

Only problem with meet the BD’s demise win con is that it could get OP if there is a sorc in game

#54

I’m not sure if this is good idea to overuse this goal right now…

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#55

All NK’s need to see BD fall that is irrelevant.

#56

I mean siding with the unseen since it’s like an extra member

#57

I’d say that we need 3 more Neut classes to make the types balenced

1 Neutral Investigative

2 Neutral Offensive

I would suggest 1 Anti King and 1 Anti BD class in addition to 1 True Neut/BD sided Neut

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#58

I propose that Merchant be the true Neutral

#59

Seems good.

Ok i’m good with that if that idea wouldn’t be overused in future.

We don’t need BD sided Neut since right now BD have like around 70-80% winrate.

#60

The way to make a an anti BD class is making sorc unspawnable with it imo

#61

The only way to balance a NK is to add a hard counter-Inquistor

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#62

Inquisitor Rework Waiting Room. :confused:

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#63

I disagree tbh. Inquisitor always sides with BD so it mostly evens out.

#64

Right now not counting NK we have:

1 True Neutral: Alch

2 BD Neuts: Inquisitor/Mercenary

2 Scum Neuts: Fool/Scorned

If we do my recommend distribution we end up with

2 True Neuts: Alch/Merchant

2 BD Neuts: Merc/Inquisitor

3 Scum Neuts: Fool/Scorned/New

And then wherever the Anti King goes because his depends on his exact wincon.

#65

Other neuts can side with the unseen like scorned (and fool helps them a lot) and plus if there is an evil king, gg BD

#66

Techinically, Mercenary is asigned by RNG but okay (I know that odds merc having BD as target is quite high but still).

#67

I would argue Scorned and Fool are just as damaging to BD as a non-killing Neutral with the win-con to see BD fall.

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#68

Irrelevant. What’s important here is the odds that it will help BD or Not. There are situations where the Fool being hanged helps the BD. However you rarely ever see that so the Fool is scum.

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#69

Ideally I want to see a neutral who wants to see BD lose and causes chaos, or a Neutral who wants to be King.