Give Me Neuts (NKs need not apply)

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#130

megathread lmao

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/neutrals-i-support/59849

PM me with any others that are good thanks

#131

BD sided neut? Hell no. Right now BD is literally few steps before domination over the Evils.

#132

Also Neutral Investigative is just a bad time tbh

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#133

Same thing is with Alchemist. Making very simmilar role to Alch is not a way who you want balance the game.

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#134

Btw

I made this a while back but I just wanted to put it here

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/the-enchantress-neutral-investigative/53663?u=htm

#135

Neutral Investigative is the only category I’d rather not have filled.

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#136

Why?

#137

It is no more BD-sided than the player chooses to be. You can frame a BD to gain protection and then flip.

Besides, balancing within the meta depends on whether additional anti-BD neuts are going to be added. You could also change the guaranteed sheriff/paly spawn to “sheriff/paly/auditor”, which would dilute BD slightly.

#138

Because it’s hard to have a goal investigation helps with.

#139

I see but I think mine has a good goal for it’s abilities tbh

#140

Still he’s very simmar to Alch who also can do such things.
Besides the fact most of the people would expect more interesting goal than just “Survive”.

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#141

You mean like the(very old suggestion) I linked?

#142

Fair enough although with this particular suggestion it wouldn’t worked out.

#143

what are you talking about? What does not work out?

#144

I find a lot of suggestions fall apart precisely because people try too hard to make exotic win conditions. This is ultimately a game about convincing people to kill that person and to not kill you.

Plus too many win conditions that are achievable mid-game (scorned, inq) lead to issues with neuts arbitrarily picking winners between BD/evils.

#145

The win condition Survive, however, does not remove the problem at all.

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#146

Blockquote The win condition Survive, however, does not remove the problem at all.

I’m referring more to the situation where a victorious scorned/inq just trolls the rest of the game. An alch taking a side to secure his win is one thing, a scorned deadlocking a vote just because is problematic.

#147

Examples? Like words are words but can you please back up your claim or at least precise what type a suggestions you’re talking about? :thinking:

#148

Yeah but the ALCH is horrible…
Night immune four times.
Healer.
Killer.
Can pick a side.
1v1 and Alch? Oh sorry possessor, but the alch likes the BD more. Bye!

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#149

Picking a side is almost like one of the best parts of playing a Neutral class. This game becomes politics as much as it is deducing and thats really healthy. The problem is when the class has already won (Scorned, Inq) and plays a kingmaker.

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