Golden Wind Smalltown - Town Victory

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Anyonehere?

[BlueStorm]

Half and half

[DatBird]

@clonedcheese what happened to this

@clonedcheese

i intend to read through D2 in a few hours and see whether reads develop from that

[clonedcheese]

i am
currently doing it

Y"ALL HAVE TOO MANY POSTS AASDFQWKEFLKQW

I have a kinda decent read on Blue and Mist and that’s it

[BlueStorm]

Cloned about to drop the hottest mix of 2021

[DatBird]

@katze @Marluxion can we get a vc?

[clonedcheese]

people were saying that in the joy game and it was full of me asleep rolling on the keyboard

[BlueStorm]

I can also see the gorta/zone banter in D1 being slight distancing but I dunno if it’s anything major to go off of

[Chloe]

Legacy Shit

Town
esooa
dat

Probably Town
blue
nut
min?

Mist (PoE but not really. I always read her wrong. Polidab goes here.)
mist

Everyone else. idk dude
eli
cheese
zone

I have no strong scumreads, I just townread everyone else above the PoE much much more

Posts that describe my thoughts atm

@Chloe

Nut and i melded on pkr having a crappy both regarding me being a VT
and how it felt disgusting

And we also melded over min potentially TMI’ing pkr town
Which is moot but still
Same brain same moment

I got the good vibes
I felt the connection
Im putting stock in that

@Chloe

cheese has a consistent mindset that makes MUCH more sense from the perspective of a villager who truly believes what he’s saying
than a wolf who has to fake the same thought process in every single post

hes forming his reads around the movement of wagons, and the worlds hes forming kinda rely on his scumread on my slot

he has done the towntell of paranoia and weird-OMGUS behavior where he dislikes people for calling them town

the man is villagin

@Chloe

Regardless
I dont think dat is lying about who he targeted, because he’d be scared of the past tracker

We know Blue didn’t roleblock Esooa
Or roleblock min and factional Esooa

We also know Blue was perfectly fine with being Time Maged last night and we have reason to believe gorta was groupscum bc of how he responded to Marshal’s ‘outting’

Think im taking Blue out of the Potential Groupscum pile
Still in the lose wolf pile
But thats lower priority

@Chloe

little scared about the fact that im solving around gorta being exactly groupscum
i can feel myself settling in to that world, and it’ll make the game much harder if we have to switch gears down the line and solve from LW!gorta perspective

however i dont think gorta was LW for a few reasons:

1. Pretty much directly responded to Marshal’s ‘outting’
2. I saw no signalling or attempt to find the pack
3. not hyped about his rand

Also Esooa p much spewed non-groupscum if this is the case

I wish i could be more confident in this but it be what it be

@Chloe

still think cheese is villaging
or LWing

dont see whats stopping zone from wolfing

i find it especially weird that everyone he voted yesterday he backed off of pretty quickly when they began to talk to him or if said wagon picked up traction

but that interaction i quoted with gorta earlier, where gorta basically said he would vengeful zone
zone was like ‘hell yeah lets do it’ instead of backing off like he did with everyone else
weird shit

@Chloe

i do like the stream of consciousness post

unsure if its out of his wolfrange but i do like it

^ zone

@Chloe

however, despite his awful progression regarding the gorta wagon
he seems genuinely excited when the idea of CFDing to PKR is on the table

like
real
genuine
‘yay my wagon is going to be a thing!!!’
which feels townie

he got a sudden boost of energy when gorta was no longer consensus and people were listening to him regarding PKR

its possible hes just a scumsiding villager
im starting to turn back around
weh

^ dat

@Chloe

its like i can feel the adrenaline rush
the dude is genuinely hyped up that his wagon is finally going to be a thing, when before he felt like a sad little deflated balloon

yeah this is villagery

^ dat

@Chloe

also just ftr
but if gorta is a packwolf he probably carried the kill last night
i didnt really think about that because my brain kept going ‘but gorta was roleblocked?? he couldnt have done the factional!’ but now that my brain has somewhat normalized and realized that RB doesnt stop the factional, it makes the most sense for gorta to have done it
outted wolf and all
nothin to lose, and no red for me to catch with my track
shrugze

@Chloe

i still think the way hes treated me and how hes solving around wagon movement and such is villagery

i havent really seen much that has changed that for me
hes been nonexistent but so has like
everyone

^ cheese

@Chloe

at least on our site i feel like she crumbles under pressure as a woofer and here i feel like everything shes saying is a big ‘fuck off’

^ mist

@Chloe

my major qualms with your slot boil down to

1. You seem to just… agree with whoever is in the thread when you are. And it feels like you’re… afraid of conflict? Afraid to stick to your guns?
2. Feels like you’re trying expand PoE today and going for the usually easy LHF. But theres also the possibility that i’m just wrong and your reasons to scumread the people i townread are valid, so i’d like to talk it out a bit

^ nut

@Chloe

i dont think you’re outside of your scumrange based off of my memory of what you’ve done this game
the agreeing with consensus thing might be what you do as town but it looks like as a wolf you consistently don’t bring much new shit to the table and you bounce off of things that have already been said
im pretty sure you brought up the idea of w!mist in this game, and you also pointed out blue first, and early
which are both points in your favor?
you definitely feel more comfortable here than i think i’d expect from a scumgame from you here but idk maybe you just vibe with the zoomer culture

i’ll have to re-read your entire ISO in this game to be certain but yeah
i’d say
in scumrange
but more likely to be town
just based off these few games

^ nut

@Chloe

idfk

i think hes closer to his towngame than his average wolfgame
i think his eod yesterday - all his energy and hype at the pkr wagon finally picking up steam - was townie
i think his case on cheese was townie even though i disagree on the conclusion

i think his night action sucked
i think his progression on gorta’s wagon sucked
im not sure how i feel about his take on mist recently considering i think mist is a villager atp (i should re-read it when i wake up)
im not sure if he would even go through the effort of casing mist as a wolf though lol

so no
i dont think dat is a wolf
i also dont have him as high as i did yesterday
but i still think hes probably town

so if you think hes a wolf i’d appreciate an explanation
im not really there

@Chloe

Think blue is villagin’

Nut’s LW case has some merit but ma boy occam or whatever says the townie person is just town

@Chloe

I did the whole ‘sleep on it’ thing wrt to my mist and nut reads and ended up a little more comfortable with nut as a townread than mist

I am a see-saw

Brain go bounce

@Chloe

His talk with gorta at EoD makes me lean non-groupscum

Could be a LW conversing with the pack

Think blue brought this up earlier? I can see an argument for that

@Chloe

Mist/nut/blue

Of the three i’d say i townread mist the least but im pretty torn over what would likely be a bus if shes groupscum

The one argument that comes to my mind for why she would hardbus gorta there is bc gorta was exactly vengeful and could heck someone up without fear of protectives
Also cred ig
Slankwolf
Nothin to lose huh

@Chloe

Cheese might be lw but brain says the boy has no TMI

blue might be lw but brain says the dude aint a packwolf with gorta

Choices
Choices

Weeeeeeee

@Chloe

Assuming gorta was groupscum

People I doubt are LW:
Esooa
Min

People I doubt are groupscum:
Esooa
Dat
Mist (awldkjawd busbusbus? prob not?)
Blue (Perfectly fine with being time maged, when gorta was set to be yeeted. Potential for gorta to have shot dat though?)
Cheese (would likely struggle a lot more with TMI)

LW pool:
Mist
Nut
Blue
Zone
Cheese
Eli
Dat

Groupscum pool:
Eli
Nut
Zone
min?

weh?

@Chloe

idk i feel like the dude woulda struggled a lot more on d1

i can re-read ig

i could just be an idiot who is putting too much stock in my memory of his meta

^ cheese

@Chloe

i also wonder if he woulda struggled with interacting with gorta in general since hes a pretty level-0/level-1 wolf
EoD they had a bit of a chat

@Chloe

less consistent in how hes reading people - more gaps in logic that he cant easily defend

likely more consensusy views than ‘chloe wolf?’

i think im like
oddly biased in his favor because of how he treated my slot in particular
it felt, to me, like he believed in his read on me

^ 2 more cheeses

@Chloe

attitude feels villa (aggro vs anxiety)
i’ve vibed with quite a bit of what she’s said today
she isnt trying to crack open the ‘core’ that was created yesterday
she is one of the main reasons we shoved gorta to the edge

^ mist

@Chloe

i’ve liked his thought process wrt his doublevote
and his stream-of-consciousness posts

also his mindset behind putting cheese at L-1 earlier felt villa

@Chloe

felt like a real bait to selfhammer

^ zooone

@Chloe

my qualms with eli boil down to lack of activity and follow-through

when he posts his own cases and thoughts its so much easier to find the dude
but he keeps just
dropping off the face of the planet

which sucks because i think he could be a villager!
i just
dunno what to do with him
a

@Chloe

yeah i’ve been getting myself back into the dichotomy tunnel
the ‘there has to be a wolf between mist and nut’ tunnel

re-reading nut/mist eod exchange (from nut’s iso) and i think she believes in her read there
i can follow her thought process p well

she and i both didnt know how tf vengeful worked wooo level-0 reads

shes bringing her own shit to the table today and i can feel the cogs turning (she also brought blue to the table yesterday!) which is a good look

her LW-case on Blue gave me the heebie jeebies because its the easiest kind of case for a packwolf to make, with their TMI, but thats not damning in and of itself
but its a good case too! p solid

my big issue is that she seems to just agree with whatever is presented in the thread when shes in the thread
but i read some of her past games and it doesnt seem like thats particuarly AI of her
i didnt like her recent vote on eli but her reasoning is ~Fine

shes
fine
its fine
shes villagery im just paranoid and in a bad mindset

Other notes: Blue is genuinely villagery af. Min feels a little UTR but I’m not too concerned? Figure that out later I guess. I’ve liked their posts for the most part. Mist I’m super torn on. I’ve liked her tone and her postings today, but I disliked her d1. I think nut is more villagery than her if it comes to a dome or some shit. Esooa is pretty much threadspewed town lol.

glhf

[Esooa]

how am I thread spewed?

[Chloe]

because i said so

[Esooa]

can we just kill zone

[clonedcheese]

alright
time to read through with one hour left to respond exactly what Dat told me not to do welp

looking at key individuals of interest

@katze

Day 2 VC

Votee	Voted by	Votes
clonedcheese	BlueStorm, Esooa	2/6
Mistyx	DatBird, min	2/6
BlueStorm	Mistyx, Chloe	2/6
Zone_Q11	EliThePsycho	1/6
EliThePsycho	nutella	1/6
Not Voting	clonedcheese, Zone_Q11 (x2)	2(3)

I will define key individuals to be the people being wagoned (Mist and Blue), those suspicious of me (Blue, Dat, and Esooa), and those very anti-suspicious of me (chloe)

Blue read

@BlueStorm

9 times out of 10 I’m better off not using my role at all, is the problem

@BlueStorm

As a heads-up

I hate my role, and I’m trying to figure out if it’s best in my hands as someone that’s not as well-read as others, or if any more villagery people are better off having this in place of me having something else

@BlueStorm

I threw my RB onto Gorta in the unlikely event that Gorta was still alive today

extremely consistent tone as the roleblocker

@BlueStorm

I guess “why am I the only slanker that’s being voted” is one of them, though I understand why, as a slanker, I’m being voted and why gorta, tree extraordinaire and vengeful soul, isn’t

Got wagoned D1 for similar reasons as right now - I feel this is town since there seems to be like scum go-to individuals that they can call scummy at anytime
their immediate turn onto gorta seems pretty non-groupscummy

@BlueStorm

…Do we just vote Marshal here then? It’s way easier than voting gorta and we have the numbers?

guess it’s pretty consistent with blue’s
ah
linear trains of thought

@BlueStorm

Also this being the one and only thing he’s said today so far

I don’t like it

/vote cloned

never took off vote after this
well
fair
but is that really scummy
or is it just me kinda slanking

@BlueStorm

I’m unfamiliar with you, having been away from the site for a year+; can you link games where you’ve been told this?

still gives questions tho

current read: townlean

Mist read

Uh
Why is this individual getting scumread again

@Mistyx

min/cheese
zone/dat
marshal/esooa/chloe
~ null tier ~
blue/pkr
~ end null tier ~
gorta/nutella
eli

Interesting readlist
given
the post I quoted for chloe

@Mistyx

its a wallpost that doesn’t say anything. it’s just shade at zone and chloe and nutella and sort of PKR without actually discussing anything

…main reason for voting Eli
aren’t there better people to read for this

@Mistyx

/vote gorta

@Mistyx

because hes not doing anything

well they did do the thing from above
and looks like they hated gorta before it was cool

@Mistyx

I thought her early ISO wasn’t great, and given her track record in mashes she has a relatively polarizing meta, so I’m pretty sure I’d be getting some good vibes from her if she was v here

I didn’t like her interactions with you, they generally felt like attempts at pocketing as opposed to actually solving your slot

And the way she’s flipped her read on me has felt ingenuine

meta reads on nutella
generally towny in effort

TL;DR: mostly null, although I kinda think they’re town

Dat read

asdfasd
I actually have no fucking clue here

Esooa Read

asdfasdfasdf
For some reason everyone thinks they’re town
There was nothing I read skimmed, and for some reason chloe and dat and everyone just pushing them as town is making me regret my choice

Chloe read

Smth I agree from Mist:

@Mistyx

@Chloe

@clonedcheese

medium take

I think Eli is town and scum just wants his role gone without worrying about night shennanigans
[/quote]

@clonedcheese

…gut?

multiple people have started out with “eli sus” in the first like 200 posts
I smell something fishy

@clonedcheese

or maybe eli’s actually sus

I don’t know how to read him

i actually kinda liked this progression

first post was Bad and said a whole lot of nothing
but the realization felt a little villa

only a little though

@DatBird

I 100% disagree

@clonedcheese

medium take

I think Eli is town and scum just wants his role gone without worrying about night shennanigans

weird af take

@clonedcheese

…gut?

multiple people have started out with “eli sus” in the first like 200 posts
I smell something fishy

i do not recall this, could just be me

@clonedcheese

or maybe eli’s actually sus

I don’t know how to read him

And then the fastest 180 with pressure

@Chloe

like i read that first post and

the dude gave no reason for eli to be town
but said wolves want him out if he is town
which
duh
but if you have no reason to townread eli atm, and you arent going to say who this implicates, whats the point of that post
it felt like TMI

im now realizing my take on the progression is stupid

@Chloe

/vote clonedcheese

join me, my masons

wolfy progression from chloe tbh

These peopel are like the top 3 posters iuaslfqlweflkjqwefl
I don’t have time to read alsdbflkqwjebflkqwbefkjqw
I cut the reads short after reading blue and mist
so
sorry
so i don’t like any of the 2 ppl wagons right now

[min]

I dont think zone should die

[min]

So no

[DatBird]

@clonedcheese

asdfasd
I actually have no fucking clue here

THIS is super dissapointing

[Chloe]

why is that

ftr this isnt me agreeing or disagreeing

i just want your thoughts in the thread

[nutella]

i kinda like the cheesewall why am i like this

[clonedcheese]

yeah it is
i actually kinda didn’t read you ._.

am kinda out of time
ill try to read you by tomorrow aa

[Chloe]

AtE
effort
and good personalities

my weaknesses