Golden Wind Smalltown - Town Victory

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@an_gorta_pratai

[EliThePsycho]

chloe, marshal, dat

[Marshal]

@min

Why are we policing gorta without knowing his target

[Esooa]

me: I’m posting to spam the thread
Eli: hot take but esooa might be posting to spam the thread

[Mistyx]

alright

gimme a line of reasoning on each of them?

[nutella]

inb4 gorta never even subbed a target

[Mistyx]

see this is when backup vengeful becomes a viable option

[Chloe]

i would fucking crack up

it’d be so like him

[EliThePsycho]

/vote Esooa
i see through your disguise of jokes, fool

[Esooa]

I’m owned

[Marshal]

eli brings up a good point

[Mistyx]

this is a lolcat

help me bus gorta

[Chloe]

idk the vc and dont wanna die just yet

brb

[Mistyx]

actually that ones going straight into the shinx gifs channel

[PokemonKidRyan]

If Gorta hasn’t selected a target nobody will die.
It’s actually riskier to wait since it gives Gorta a chance to pick a target.

And if they are a wolf then they’ll pick a role which scares them

[PokemonKidRyan]

@Marluxion

At any time you may target a player. If you are yeeted, that player will also die.

This suggests that Gorta doesn’t select a target post death. It has to be pre death

[Marshal]

hammer gorta before he gets a chance to play

[EliThePsycho]

what’s the VC

[DatBird]

Clones full Iso

@clonedcheese

subscribe
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Opener is litterally nothing but filler and gets into thread. Like as i mentioned before it was bad imo as it provides nothing but haha im here. NGL my first posts are usually like garbo also, but thats what started this

@clonedcheese

uuuuhh
Is my role actually that powerful
I was thinking that I wouldn’t be using this at all

Like this post isnt bad, but it isnt giving any gut feels

@clonedcheese

i promise to be public and leashable ._.

@clonedcheese

leash me daddy

@clonedcheese

that’s exactly what we’re gonna do :^)

if people wanna discuss my course of action feel free to do so

@clonedcheese

@Zone_Q11

@clonedcheese

does this say wolf of does this say furry

FLUFF

@clonedcheese

/vote Chloe

Like so heres the chloe vote. No nothing for it or why its there

@clonedcheese

we’re podracing

@clonedcheese

zombie

@clonedcheese

@clonedcheese

no be mean to catto

FLUFF

@clonedcheese

@Marshal

We SHOULD leash gorta’s vengeful

…how do you leash a vengeful

@Marshal

Vig should fire n1, roleswapper should swap n1, all of these limited use abilities should go early

can i do n2 instead

honestly weird question

@clonedcheese

like i know
im just appealing
since i don’t trust the council to make good reads d1

classic cheese line. +1 good point

@DatBird

I 100% disagree

@clonedcheese

medium take

I think Eli is town and scum just wants his role gone without worrying about night shennanigans

weird af take

@clonedcheese

…gut?

multiple people have started out with “eli sus” in the first like 200 posts
I smell something fishy

i do not recall this, could just be me

@clonedcheese

or maybe eli’s actually sus

I don’t know how to read him

And then the fastest 180 with pressure

Previous take that i standby

@clonedcheese

dark bribe
i cc

@clonedcheese

i had this
then wondered why eli was getting pushed this early d1
so i connected the two

@clonedcheese

Posts that I thought I meant people disliking eli:

@Chloe

this does not feel natural

this does not feel like eli

@DatBird

eli min very comf very okayish not town reads but townleans

(yes I know what the post says Im braindead today kek)

@Chloe

i already want cheese to swap eli and dat

sorry
can i return to the game in a few hours after some sleep
apparently Chloe = lots of people kek

reason for it, it just feels like weird to say the least. I still like dont know how he came to the conclusion hes town by 1 (in his head two posts) post saying eli was sus.

Like I guess i never got the opposite culture of the read. It feels like being opposite for being opposite to say the least.

@clonedcheese

my thought process:
scumreading ppl early bad
therefore ppl scumreading early = scum
therefore early wagon = town

Like this logic doesnt work. It basically says u cant scumread people yet, so i scumnread u. Ur doing the exact same thing u are condemming

@clonedcheese

yes to me

This is a townread on PKR for wagonomics

@clonedcheese

he was like voted to 4/7
at this point im not sure i’d vote him today

And this wagonomics stuff. Its a small game with a double voter. Wagons can and will get big fast. I dont think 3 people voting someone is like super sus especially when one who counts for half the votes stated it was for rng.

@clonedcheese

chloe/dat: “I’m gonna low effort this game!”
also chloe/dat:

have to read up on 250 posts
any burning questions at this time

@clonedcheese

@DatBird

Basically where ya reads at currently

Without reading the 200 posts im missing
Dat/Chloe paranoia
Otherwise null for everyone else

Also note the drop of the pkr read

@clonedcheese

@Chloe

though the fact that he hasnt called anyone who has indicated any sense of a townread on him a wolf weirds me out

maybe I haven’t got to the parts that I see anyone townread me

@clonedcheese

Hullo i have returned
Finishing pokemon black 2 and watching iron man 3 on the same day was taxing for my tear ducts

Thoughts:

1. I reaaaaally dont like Dat and chloe. They usually sit near the top of my “do not attempt to read cuz you’ll fuck up” list, but things are off.
2. First chloe - in the interaction with marshal, she basically goes “wait youre being stupid lmao” without actually adressing the problem; putting the blame for the problem on marshal for noticing it, rather than try to walk marshal through the innocent thought process. Would say this is guilty conscience. Furthermore they just seem overly enthusiastic and pockety - their question of “haveyou gotten to scumreading those that townread you” directed at me just sounds like “townread me for scunreading you lol”
3. As for dat, a little less suspicious; only concrete weird thing i can point to is them just popping into marshal v chloe with "this is “v/v”
4. Marshal town - hope this is selfexplanatory
5. PKR town - whats even the reasoning for ppl voting them

Everyone else exists at a null

1. From my experience u end up always doing it though
2. eh i cant even remember that well
3. I talked about this
4. acceptable
5. Like i really dont like his opener and policy vote on you. Felt forced. He can say hes a mechanics man, doesnt mean it doesnt feel agenday

@clonedcheese

No
Due to the fact that i don thave any

@clonedcheese

Thats a lie
The scumread on dat is 50% you

@clonedcheese

Gung ho i guess

@clonedcheese

Scum = unlikely to be voted d1, either from other people or the votee trying to save them

Thus voted d1 = <rand scum

@clonedcheese

Same logic but a little more so on eli

@clonedcheese

If PKR was scum then at least there would be an effort
Counterwagons
Distractions
Hell even double down and voting may happen

But none of that with pkr and eli, just votes keep piling up with gut reads
Tells me that scums fine with this

@clonedcheese

Not that much more
But still more
Im starting with the impression that the scumteam has >= 1 vocal person

@clonedcheese

*assumption

@clonedcheese

I mean
Ill make terminology more clear
I have them as a townlean
<rand scum but still in the gutread phase
Happy

All of this just doesnt like ellict anything to me. It all feels like nonsense it just justifys means that are awkward already.

@clonedcheese

Outside of wagon movement i have them as a complete null
Thats the only lead i have on the two of them

And this i HATE. If hes null why is he town to you, I know the answer but the answer is just bad.

@min

You only scumread dat because of that one post then?

@clonedcheese

+general demeanor i guess
I usually have mods in the “do not attmept to read” list since i tend to auto-gutread them as scum

@clonedcheese can u expand on this please then if its more than just chloe paranoia.

@clonedcheese

That one post was like the one solid piece of evidence

@clonedcheese

Taking one last question from min and goingto sleep

@clonedcheese

I once again need a case for this
Like why the hell is blue getting voted

@DatBird

I cant feel that two people that are pushing each other are both villagers? Why?

There wasnt much explanations given in that particular post
Combined with the fact that neither marshal nor chloe were obviously towny in that exchange
Felt very weird for you to come in and drop that

I already explained this, and explained it to mist as well. I already at the time read both as v. And the conflict just seemed pointless. It wasnt the exchange that made me feel that way.

@clonedcheese

…what

@clonedcheese

…why thats a valid vote?
Im caught up with the thread and still trying to understand how randon ppl seemingly get up to L-3 instantly

@clonedcheese

Not saying its horrendous
I just wanna understand why lmao

Hes curious on why I and esooa voted blue, and said he was caught up, but I provided reasons previously.

TLDR: Its a bunch of nonesnse just nothing. Reading thru i didnt feel he even beleived in the chloe or dat reads at all. I might just be the wrong person to read this, but idk nothing stood out. A lot of felt filler, and my read hasnt changed on the slot. I think people are like cloneds obvious cause he ticked the classic paranoia box, but hasnt done much about it. @Chloe i still scumread this. Maybe this helps u understand my read.

[Mistyx]

he had his chance