Harry Potter FM - COMPLETE - DEATH EATERS WIN

[ridin_with_biden]

meh

what did u do N1?

[an_gorta_pratai]

Can people take a look at part 1 of my Marshal read? I should be covering Marshal’s d2 now

[Boss110]

WILL HE BE ABLE TO STOP THEM? FIND OUT IN NEXT EPISODE.
Something like that.

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@ridin_with_biden

what did u do N1?

Vibing.

[Boss110]

You do realize I would always say that “Marshal is a wolf and yes I agree” here right?
Unless you are asking Biden, then yeah, do it Biden.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I mean, yeah, but I haven’t reached a conclusion and it’s far from “Marshal lockwolf”

[an_gorta_pratai]

Marshal's d2

@Marshal

I think Seth was spam vigged

That’s never a town abil

Hmm

@Marshal

Maaaaybe

But “you talk too much” + Seth Being top poster could mean things

He was locktown so town never shoots that

@Marshal

Geyde likes them
It’s possible one was included

I think we should be attentive and not hyperpost

I’m capping myself at 75 posts total from this post today glgl

These posts almost feel like a mix of being performative and TMI, like who assumes there is just outright a spamvig

@Marshal

I’m not going further into it
It’s not worth speculating on too much but I suggest we all simmer on the posting

@Marshal

that’s blatant rolefishing?

@EliThePsycho

i think the claimvig only takes place if you say the name of the ability

not the ability itself

DONT LISTEN TO THIS DO NOT DO NOT DO NO TDO NOT

Don’t claim

How would you know this?
this
no
stop

stop stop stooooop

@Marshal

flavor vigilantes exist. This does not mean a claim vigilante doesn’t. Every game should be treated as if one exists.

“Btw we have a spam vig” “please don’t out if if you are the claimvig”

@Marshal

if conroy is going with the self resolving claim we don’t yeet that tbh

@Marshal

we should try to in some form set up conroy’s role to prove him or yeet as many wolves as possible

either way

meh

we don’t yeet a FN today

I hate how Marshal thinks we shouldn’t let the doc claim live, but insists we should let this claim live when we all know it’s a very fakeable role

@Marshal

gorta’s track is

hmm

I mean wolf trakcer exists so it’s not really clearing
ya

imma just try to socially solve that

@Marshal

but it’s not “self resolving” it’s a claim that either proves him, forces him tothunderdome if w, or forces his wolfbuddies to cover for him

so

ya

not gonna yeet it today

@Marshal

Cent/gorta as w/w would be a really weird gambit

I don’t see cent planning on him locking himself in to a friendly neighbor claim and then more or less buddy/buddying himself with gorta knowing that if he flips gorta is also outted.

@Marshal

Gorta/Cent likely not w/w, this read can potentially develop based on friendly neighbor type things

@Marshal

Centuries i’m leaving to be mech sorted glgl

@Marshal

Crichard i’m no longer hard clearing, a tonal v lean but I cannot say that i strongly strongly think he’s town

@Marshal

gorta has still not tonally obvtowned himself, his handling of the track is slightly villagery but I am wanting more from him because he could easily be obvtown by now but isn’t

@Marshal

ftr I am getting fairly paranoid of centuries / gorta as w/w, there were some parts of that interaction that felt preplannedish

@Marshal

if gorta isn’t obvtown by EoD

I want to kill him

(@an_gorta_pratai this is a threat / promise)

@Marshal

ok so
this is softing a surge visit

and it’s asking gorta to out it
it’s subtly implying that he’s visited surge and he’s worried the check could be on him (not AI for him)

this doesn’t seem like theatre. It’d have to get reaaaallly deep.

Gorta trying to delay it and then caving
doesn’t really feel like theatre

and if it’s w/w, it would be.

I think gorta did in fact track cent, because cent as wolf with gorta wolfbud would like
deliberately fake from the start

it would be a plan
and the hesitation around it / conroy baiting out the claim because he thought it could plausibly on him

does not feel preplanned

I now don’t think cent / gorta w/w.

so I think i’m more or less fine with cent confing on gorta (but would rather he keep secret on it because wolves could kill or like jailkeep his target if he is public about it.

These posts look like the perfect backdrop to go after me or Cents later. Like why do I claim that I saw Cents visit a dead guy and put that suspicion on Cents when we are partners.

@Marshal

I think ridin sticking with the bit is >rand v, villagers tend to stick with silly pregame jokes/bits more because they focus on it whereas wolves can abandon in favor of pushing agenda.

I also thought the EoD was villager (hesitation around PKR after he started posting was a pretty good look)

@Marshal

Marshal
Italy
riden_with_biden

is my social core of villa atm

Notice how this changed from d1. I know reads change, but to dump your entire d1 towncore like this is something else. Said towncore is supposed to be people that are lock town in your eyes and that you never want to lynch.

@Marshal

When thread is dead it usually means wolves have a reason not to post. That’s more or less it.

i’m nervous that eli’s top 2 townreaders have died, and thread has just piled on him and not shifted much.

I don’t even think pushers of him are >rand w.

I do think that wolves do not care about Eli dying at this point
which makes me think we should at least take another look at it.

I still really want vul in-thread and I know he’s asleep cuz he’s yucky european but we gotta figure out that slot

so far I don’t like it, it’s 10 posts of “i’ll do something later” and 1 post of like semi-analysis

if he doesn’t improve he should die.

Intensify also needs to post

I feel like I am beating a dead horse, but I don’t like how wishy washy he is on Eli.

@Marshal

Speaking of that

Crichard opener post felt like a plan to townread app rather than reading and townreading that post

Why respond to App’s post and only his and in the first place?

The reasoning feels week compared to what I’ve seen from him

Hmm

@Marshal

I could also yeet crichard

His push on Eli seems bad faith
It’s not how he does it, per se, but how he says “we might just have to go Eli” and I don’t think he’s really exhausted all other options

Also from what I can tell he asked Eli at EoD1 for his reads and am now pushing him for being frozen instead of, like, asking again.
(Correct me if I’m wrong on this, crichard could have said it later down)

It feels like he is trying to kill Eli with his posts, not solve Eli

And that gives me

Negative vibes

@Marshal

you say this

but your posts act like you have already decided

it’s just been reason upon reason why he should die
and it feels

nail-in-the-coffin-y

even if eli is wolf I don’t like it
because it doesn’t feel like you considering reads and instead trying to yeet eli.

@Marshal

/vote Crichard564

its spicy
I know

but he’s fixed an tonal issues and I think his pushes lack real consideration of slots

@Marshal

It’s not that

it’s not that you aren’t changing your mind
it’s the lack of evaluation but the sudden pushing. And the way you are phrasing this feels like trying to kill with points rather than solving and then pushing.

It’s not like you took a step back, analysed eli, gathered points against them, posted pushed him, and brought those points up while doing that.

You are throwing a lot of new arguments in a way that feels tunnelier than is usual than you. From what i’ve played with you you are usually pretty cautios but are, like, not here

It gives me bad vibes

I’d like to chop in (Crichard, Intensify, Derps) today.

I’m not going to tell you what to think but can you at least look at (intensify, Derps?) as chop candidates

@Marshal

weh

I dont have mental will to hard case crich

I have class in 12 mins and I will probably be less active

settle for derps is

Pog if right
and

again gets us nowhere if wrong

m

@Marshal

We have 10 minutes

is anyone even going to consider crichard as a target to wagon?

why is he villa at all?

is there a counterargument to me saying that his progression on app is out of place and his push on eli doesn’t look to be in good faith?

CRich was one of your top town reads why put them at the bottom of your list? I don’t like how he jumps on CRich like this after what he said d1

@Marshal

I have a very very weird tinfoil that derps is w and trying to appeal to me by acting wolfy and get a TWTBAW read from me and then coast off of that, and EoD1 after that didn’t work he tried to look good

this… this is kind of I think a w!derps gameplan? idk

This kind of reads like Marshal is trying to leave doors open for future mislynches in my opinion

@Marshal

I think intensfiy is likelier to be wolf

but

eh sure

/vote SirDerpsAlot

@Marshal

/vote intensify

i’ll fuck around and do this while I wait for eli case

@Marshal

/vote Crichard

if there’s a counterwagon I want it to be this

I kind of get the feeling that I am tunneling Marshal at this point, but I don’t like the vote hoping semantics only to land back on CRich and most of these votes have no reasoning behind them

@Marshal

I thnk this is the best option

am sorry if wrong, really am

legacy goes in logs

@Marshal

if my logs get cleaned remember what i said anbout w/w interaactions ty

Am I crazy for saying these feel somewhat towny?

part 2

[Boss110]

I am here but will probably be gone 1 hour before EoD.
Everyone kinda disappear and the vote is 1vs2 which is… ok.
To those who have yet to vote, make up your mind already.

[Boss110]

Vulgard is hesitant.
Biden is not really saying anything but they seems to be thinking.
Where is Wazza?
Where is Derp?
Where is Intensify?
Marshal and Italy is obvious.
Eli probably won’t be here.
Centuries say he will arrive later?
Gorta is making read so that’s understandable.

[SirDerpsAlot]

I kinda am here.

But also not really

[Boss110]

Ehh.
You trust me or Marshal/Italy?

[SirDerpsAlot]

ATM leaning marshal because I soulread him town and Italy is actallt posting lol

[Boss110]

Uh huh.
I suggest reading the thread and see what you think.

[ridin_with_biden]

wait

[ridin_with_biden]

cent said he got occupied right

[Boss110]

Yes?

[ridin_with_biden]

why would FN recieve occupied feedback

[Boss110]

Hmm.
@Centuries

[ridin_with_biden]

@Aelin

Roleblocks: Yes - To clarify, the roleblocker will not get feedback, but the person being roleblocked will be aware if they would have received some sort of feedback.

there is no feedback from it as I understand

[ridin_with_biden]

(feedback to person doing it)

[an_gorta_pratai]

@an_gorta_pratai

part 1/3

@an_gorta_pratai

part 2

Marshal's d3

@Marshal

shit

I buy it because Tyron is almost never a kill from a wolf but

shit

This is one of Marshal’s more towny posts

@Marshal

@Italy you need to claim I think

@an_gorta_pratai you need to confirm / not confirm centuries’s FN

@Marshal

well

just like out it and actions and stuff

This feels all too planned for my tastes. It does kind of makes sense considering Marshal’s claim, but my brain is telling me this is all too convenient.

@Marshal

why NOT

??? /?? ??? ??

@Marshal

bound by ropes or whatever

@Marshal

Centuries

if you were really bound down by ropes

don’t you
softconfirm eli as if you were RBd it woudln’t come from town so scum RBd eli n1 unless he was deliberately lying to fake it for the future

These posts seem ok, but it does feel like the backdrop to frame Cents/Eli as w/w. That’s my opinion on it

@Marshal

@EliThePsycho

are you harry potter as a flavor

i know this is dumb as a question but I
sort of want to ask it regardless

you can confirm / deny
or decline to answer if you think it’s a bad idea

I
gah just trust me on this

@Marshal

declining is perfectly valid as an option

@Marshal

thank you
I needed this to clear things up

I will be able to explain this like way down the line but not rn
sorry

Did you ever explain why you were role fishing? If you haven’t you should

@Marshal

I don’t really want to kill gorta today

I shouldn’t have to explain why I hate this

@Marshal

for rightnow message

You
Are
Blatantly
Powerwolfing

@Marshal

I feel lots of red in intensify / boss / centuries

@Marshal

could it be as easy as, like, Centuries / Intensify / Boss / Vul?

@Marshal

gorta is a big idk man

I don’t think he’s w/w with cent for how cent handled gorta solfting tracker on someone, cent is good but I don’t feel like he tries to subtly set up the FN claim if gorta claims to have tracked him.

@Marshal

I think the trees is coachable and fakeable and should not be used as a point in favor of gorta, ftr

@Marshal

Centuries has been actively pushing, not solving, for the past like 3 days

I don’t trust it at all

I see no attempt to solve alignments and I see many active attempts to hardpush people and strogarm executions.

and it’s an unresolved FN claim
should probably die soonTM

I just hate this shade that Marshal is throwing in various directions

@Marshal

I’m considering worlds where italy just has me pocketed

but he has real convictions behind his posts
there’s an attempt to solve and

there’s progression there
it’s not all mech fluff and stuff

I also have mechanical reason to trust him > boss in this theoretical thunderdome
so

yeah I don’t think it’s likely

I have yet to investigate this

@Marshal

well

the thing is

i was not roleblocked

I hardclaim 2-shot neighborizer,

n1 @Italy
n2 @ridin_with_biden

both of these can confirm

i was… clearly not roleblocked seeing as I neighborized rwb

so
it’s on nerd

but there was a missing kill n2, so yeah and this doesn’t confirm you

@Marshal

I am slightly potentially paranoid of eli / cent w/w despite my EoD things because i’m tinfoiling that the wolves (which would include boss) have info on italy’s role and therefore mirrored it, which would come from a rolecop that says more than “leader”, and that these ropes are fake alltogether

it’s
just a feeling and i still trust him but
its
a
feeling
TM
TMTMTM

This post feels incredibly opportunistic. Like Marshal has been pushing the Cents/??? w/w angle all game and it just like he is picking opportunistic targets

@Marshal

I mean

meh

im p sure its gotta be boss

so w/e

I don’t like this confidence here tbqh, I feel like town has almost no WiM to play right now. I know I don’t have much WiM. Making this ISO was a chore

@Marshal

how do we know it’s MyLo?

@Marshal

he’s claiming fake mech info on me

These posts I don’t know what I am feeling anymore. This feels like it could be powerwolfing, but I don’t know how many wolves there are, like this feels like Marshal knows wolves are close to parity and needs one more ML

@Marshal

GTH town

I don’t get why I am suddenly town

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Conclusion
I don’t know quite what to think here. Marshal has his town moments and a crap ton of wolf moments, but part of that is probably me in a tunnel. I do lack confidence here because the last time I SR Marshal like this I was stuck in a tunnel and found wolfy things. I don’t want to ever flip this today and will probably have an easier time reading Italy