I need to stop. (prince buff)

The point is that you’re buffing a role that needs to be nerfed simply for design health by giving it something that just annoys wolves with particular habits and causes people to lose through the game suddenly making their habits a method of losing the game, which is objectively bad design.

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Still. Prince is just too boring at times.

That’s not because it’s too weak, or that it’s not receiving investigative results. Neccecarily, you’re getting new info each night.

The reason I’ve seen people think Prince is boring is actually because almost all of Prince’s power comes from it just existing and going by the numbers, occasionally killing a lock wolf or a shudders Fool or two, rather than being allowed to make any remotely ambitious plays.

In other words, it’s because Prince is too strong.

Same thing I feel for prince and phys

“Do this [class]” or “you know what to do”

Even if you got rid of
Prince, we’d still need a confirmed BD.

…Mystic.

Or we just remake Prince.

like Mystic always has and always will fit the bill
it’s not as obscenely strong or limiting as Prince, it has cool abilities, there are many different strategies you can do with it, and most of all it’s nowhere near as strong

I’d be perfectly willing to go forward with Mystic as the central design element rather than Prince.

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Prince could be remade as a non-confirmable offensive or a JOAT of some kind, which would likewise fix the problem of K/O being an asinine group to claim in.

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oh my god

is someone seriously saying prince is BORING and that’s a valid reason to disregard balance and BUFF him for no reason?

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Something along the lines of an actual jailkeeper maybe?

Non-confirmable offensive is kinda not a thing given the base mechanics we have at the moment

@Icibalus something like this?

Prince :crossed_swords: :shield:

Blue Dragon
Passive: Royal blood - Votes on you for king count twice

Day Ability: Unstoppable - You are immune to occupy and redirection tonight and Behead bypasses everything tonight (1 use)

Night Ability 1: Imprison - If target player tries to visit anyone occupy them. Occupy anyone visiting target player (4 uses)
Night Ability 2: Behead - Kill and occupy target player. If you kill a BD this way then disable this ability (3 uses)

i’m just noting things down for my Great Ego Rework

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I’m sure we will need it EVENTUALLY.

We have been gradually heading in that direction with ToL

I’m calling it now. ToL will have FoL style limited feedback by 2020 or at least very close to it

For example physician might still get feedback but not their target.

I think Prince right now needs a rework rather than a buff.
The only thing Prince has going for it right now is an unconvertable, empowered, provable Knight that occupies. That isn’t fun in the slightest. What is the point of jailing someone if everyone posts their logs anyways in day chat?

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