I think King needs some kind of rework

Queen would take up a Neutral spot, right?

Probably a BD slot. Notice how she’s guarenteed.

I don’t think guaranteeing would be a great idea though…

Her whole purpose is to counterbalance the King. Since the King is always there he always needs a counter balence.

Having evil king isn’t really a problem.

The problem becomes what Evil King can do. As of now, Evil King is pretty close to a hard counter to Prince. Once the Evil King knows who Prince is, he can either attack him or try to vote him up. Now this isn’t super awful, but BD have no real way of “deducing” the King before he strikes, especially with the new King change, since it will just look like Prince was attacked if it fails. Basically the King HAS to kill the Prince before we can figure out he’s Evil, and by then it’s too late. King just takes matters in his own hands far too easily, which is why Evil King is so difficult to deal with in the first place. Add in we’re pushing a movement away from whisper meta, which means King just gets to sit around and do nothing until he finds the prince and can kill him. It’s a boring way to to play, when a decent amount of games are decided by a 65/35 split.

I’m fine with Evil King having to convince the court to vote up the Prince before he can decide fate
But being able to snipe him at night seems lame
Of course Prince can counter this by getting guards and heals
But it still seems a strange ability for King to have
Wouldn’t the ideal be Evil King has to pretend to be Good, get Prince’s trust and claim, then leak this info to the Assassin to get Prince killed?
I wish Order Exe were replaced with some ability that helps Evil King conspire with Unseen
Like a conduit that the Mystic can’t spy on

That’s fair and as I’ve stated, I do believe my distaste for Decide Fate could be just me not seeing the bigger picture with the ability.

This is why I liked Allies so much. It let kind find evil classes, and then skilled kings could use this information to hide them from BD or potentially communicate with the member to leak various information he acquired. Current King has no such ability, which is why he’s devoted to killing the prince, and that’s about it.

I think the king should be able to speak at night with 1 person like the psychic,
And have a way to occupy that person (two use), if he think so.

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/suggestion-starting-evil-king-execution-wont-past-the-day/54579

Another way to make king less swingy

What iffffff, King didn’t spawn every single time, and in such games, you would simply have no King?

After hundreds of games in Town of Salem which has no King, it works out pretty fine there.

It’s the purpose of the game to have a king …