Inq/Sorc Rework/Buff/Nerf Thingy

Class/Lore/Fanfic
#1

Sorcerer, Neutral, Killer :dagger: :star:

Passive 1: Mage Armour - Immune to death at night, occupation, target changing, poison and bleeding, and you will be immune to the Inquisitor’s first attack.

Passive 2: Perception - You will not attack targets that are death immune, guarded by the Knight, healed by a Physician, or are an Unseen/Cult member.

Day Ability 1: Magic Dust - All players appear to be a magic user to The Inquisitor tonight. 2 use.

Day Ability 2: Magic Cloak - All magic users will appear to be non magic users including yourself. 2 use.

Night Ability 1: Magic Missile - Fire a magic missile at a player, killing them. You’re visit will not be seen while using this. Unlimited.

Night Ability 2: Circle of Death - Everyone visiting target player will die. (Unavailable before Night 3). 3 use

Goal - Survive to see the BD fall

Inquisitor, Neutral, Investigative :mag_right: :star:

Passive 1: Holy Blessing - Immune to death at night once

Passive 2: Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition - Your visits will be hidden from others at night.

Day Ability 1: Enhancement - Make yourself immune to occupation/target change tonight, 1 use

Day Ability 2: Blessed Eye - Watch a player at night, if the Sorcerer visits him you will be informed of the Sorcerer’s Identity, 2 use (Can only be used after night 3)

Night Ability 1: Find Magic - Check if a player is a magic user. The Court Wizard, Paladin, Mystic, Illusionist, Sage, Sorcerer, and the Cult are all magic users. Unlimited uses

Night Ability 2: Attack a player. Bypasses The Sorcerer’s death immunity the second time used on Sorcerer. 4 use

Goal - Survive to see Sorcerer fall

Feedback/suggestions are really appreciated

Also please tell me if it’s OP

#2

I think you buffed inquis far too much. You made him pre patch along with removing most of his weakness with no real trade off. Sorc got a no visit passive, which is nice, but I don’t think it does enough to compensate for turning inquis into a free win again

3 Likes
#3

Okay I will nerf him bit

Thanks for the feedback btw

#4

May I say something?

If you give a class like sorc a thing to counter inquistor checks…

Why are you giving the inquistor a thing to counter the thing that’s countering inquistor

1 Like
#5

It’s complicated…

#6

@RawkHawk

I think he has been balanced out

#7

Any other feedback?

#8

Not really

:frowning:

1 Like
#9

It looks good

1 Like
#10

nvm I just did something wrong I thought I posted “is it good now or not?” lol

#11

I still find the entire concept of the sorc’s day abilities… as just ridiculous. even 1 use of full court frame… basically negates the entire find magic skill.

Currently inq is OP in the sense that there’s a 80% chance the BD will do his job for him early on… he’s UP in the sense that 99% of the time, he’s completely incompetent at his job.

Personally I think if the inq is to stay in the game… the sorc needs added buffs to hide from BD, and a total removal of his “make sure the inq’s abilities are too unreliable to even consider” abilities. This doesn’t seem to help much with what I consider the core problem.

IMO the inq either needs to be hands down better than the BD at finding the sorc… or he needs to be removed because he is currently best suited to sitting on his ass doing nothing while the BD does his job for him.

2 Likes
#12

Ok, that might work out, unless The Inquisitor is still alive then he will call you out as “immune”.

Okay, let me be straight here, how about making a Sorcerer almost undetectable to any BD classes (Investigators/Offensive)? Those 2 day abillities are highly Anti-Inquisitor but problem lies within finding her by BD. Also it isn’t solving anything about “unreliable” on Inquisitor’s abillities.

Im pretty sure, Inquisitor is just fine with his currect passive and making him immune to bleeding/poison wouldn’t acomplish anything. He shouldn’t be a NK v2.0.

No. There need always be a counter play to his actions. He already have not hard job with finding her. We’re not looking for unnessesary buffs. Inquisitor already have higher winrate against Sorcerer.

Umm, so it seems to be cheap strat like “Drunk debauching Reaper Night 1 and then get executed next day”. I mean it would just swap with “Sorcerer dying Night 1 to Yolo Ruthless Efficiency”. As i said Inquisitor don’t need any buffs.

The question is: It would be better to have 4 or 3 uses if we want be balanced? That would probably came up with eventual tests.

Well, im not very sure if buffing Inquisitor is a good solution here.

#13

I’ll make them back to 2 then

#14

I mean Sorc could be a MM for all he knows so he shouldn’t want to out and getting potentially killed by assassin

Yes now she is almost undectable except to princess but hey MM is also like this too

I’ll remove it then

There is still a counter play getting jailed is one but sure I’ll make it 1 use since it seems to be OP

But they do or else there going to be too UP and Sorc will win 99% of the time

I think that 4 would be balanced to get rid of the inq immunity protection shield on Sorc you would need to attack twice

#15

why not… it’s a pretty reasonable chance that it is the sorc. If it isn’t the sorc it’s a good chance it’s someone that votes with the sorc. BD is reasonably likely to protect you if you do something useful (like catch a MM).

If it is an MM, not outing makes it a huge waste of your time. Guy you blind stabbed is immune… ok blind stab again… ok still immune, now I’ve totally wasted 2 nights, and half of my attempts to kill. One more miss and I’m flat out incapable of killing the sorc myself.

#16

I mean why would they protect you anyway? They don’t have to protect you.

Or you could just check if he is a magic user

#17

And if it’s negative, it’s probably a cloak, or if it’s possitive, it’s probably a magic dust… so long as those abilities exist checking magic users is a silly exercise of futility.

Plus time is a bit of the essence.
N1. Stab find immune
N2. Check for magic (pray your result wasn’t tampered with).

N3.If non-MU, blind stab or check someone else
N3. if MU- stab again.

By the time you are half way through checking the second one, BD’s either found the sorc for you… or cult/unseen are nearly in control of the court.

Well normally I would say if sorc isn’t dead BD would want him around… but at the time I kind of forgot that magic cloak and dust are still in… Meaning the BD wouldn’t actually want to rely on this inq…