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#19312

Question. What are neutrals lacking right now?

#19313

If I was told what people want in a neutral I could probably (try) to create one that’s suitable

#19314

iirc crone can just choose to mark town people on a day ability

#19315

any reason to be in the game

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#19316

Crone can only mark with the day ability iirc

#19317

I mean
You could say that for conversion
And neutral killer
And every role in general, we could just make the game vanilla

#19318

high power role madness is hard to balance
3p on top of that makes the job of balancing it that much harder

#19319

recognize that I say this despite introducing even more neutrals

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#19320

At least it isn’t pretender

#19321

FoL has conversion as a main mechanic, and I think working around that is reasonable
Neuts have always been the annoyance when it comes to “how the hell do I make these impactful yet still fair and not just have them openclaim d1”

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#19322

Neutrals’ main problem imo is being convert immune
There are too many things stopping conversion

#19323

That’s why vast majority of them are scumsided

#19324

We balance for a mechanic that has a chance of not even impacting the game

#19325

Remember when mercenary was convertable :eyes:

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#19326

Yes, those were brilliants days and I wish Mercenary was still convertable. It should be.

#19327

Let’s say allowing conversion of neutrals would be semi-fair
How would you go about changing setup to accommodate for that

#19328

(I’m interested in the take and I’m not throwing my pov in play)

#19329

I wouldn’t, if we were to not allow conversion of neutrals I’d be nerfing abilities so that they can’t prevent conversion
I have no idea why magic barrier prevents conversion, conversion imo should be unstoppable bar a few specific actions

#19330

Obviously neutral evil neutrals shouldn’t be able to be converted. Maybe add them to scumchat but not consider the conversion successful.
Neutral good like Mercenary should be fully convertable

#19331

What about something like inquisitor

Who can lean either way