Magic: The Gathering Discussion Thread

card advantage in m21 seems to be off the charts in general

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…i don’t think people are going to play you to draw their own library, Abby

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also, just thought (read; copied) something
Sultai Ultimatum, pull out Peer Into The Abyss, Teferi’s Tutelage, and Underworld Dreams
pretty sure your opponent can’t do anything about that if that resolves

no wait lol they just shuffle the Abyss
i’m not thinking straight

sorry, I love making infinite Sultai Ultimatum combos but they’re quite hard to manage sometimes

no wait, I have it
be playing Sultai, but basically just UG with black spalshed in for this and the Ultimatum
ramp, Wilderness Reclamation
cast Emergent Ultimatum
grab Peer Into The Abyss, Teferi’s Tutelage, and Folio of Fancies
no matter which one your opponent picks their library is dead

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They can just bounce it with teferi lol

Ans then u spent 4 mama to do nothing

Remove Tutelage - Abyss on them, they draw half their deck, you get rid of the other half with Folio of Fancies’ mill effect.
Remove Folio - Tutelage is played, you draw half of your deck, their deck is milled down to almost nothing.
Remove Abyss - Folio of Fancies is dangerous with a Reclamation on the board, and especially when every card you draw from it mills them for two.

might be a decent mill wincon
of course playing Emergent Ultimatum means you probably win anyway
but it sounds fun

4feri can react to that.

3feri’s ability only means you can’t cast spells at instant speed, it says nothing about Loyalty abilities.

If 4feri on board it means ur playing this t5. I feel like theres much bigger and better plays to do with 5 mana then nothing. If this had any kind of etb itd be wayy better imo

It’s good in brawl, deffo going in my narset who kick deck.

Right, but it effectively does have an ETB: 4feri’s uptick.

i agree that it’s not very good but will undoubtedly see play in some blue decks

It cld be pretty funny in a turbo cycling deck cuz cycling counts as drawing so suddenly all ur cycles net u card advantage lol

Cycling decks don’t have that much trouble finding their Zenith Flares, to be fair.

U play it to establish dominance

I’ve never played cycling even tho its cheapest deck cuz it looks super boring tbh

yes that about sounds right
cycling decks aren’t very stylish