Magic: The Gathering Discussion Thread

card advantage in m21 seems to be off the charts in general

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ā€¦i donā€™t think people are going to play you to draw their own library, Abby

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also, just thought (read; copied) something
Sultai Ultimatum, pull out Peer Into The Abyss, Teferiā€™s Tutelage, and Underworld Dreams
pretty sure your opponent canā€™t do anything about that if that resolves

no wait lol they just shuffle the Abyss
iā€™m not thinking straight

sorry, I love making infinite Sultai Ultimatum combos but theyā€™re quite hard to manage sometimes

no wait, I have it
be playing Sultai, but basically just UG with black spalshed in for this and the Ultimatum
ramp, Wilderness Reclamation
cast Emergent Ultimatum
grab Peer Into The Abyss, Teferiā€™s Tutelage, and Folio of Fancies
no matter which one your opponent picks their library is dead

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They can just bounce it with teferi lol

Ans then u spent 4 mama to do nothing

Remove Tutelage - Abyss on them, they draw half their deck, you get rid of the other half with Folio of Fanciesā€™ mill effect.
Remove Folio - Tutelage is played, you draw half of your deck, their deck is milled down to almost nothing.
Remove Abyss - Folio of Fancies is dangerous with a Reclamation on the board, and especially when every card you draw from it mills them for two.

might be a decent mill wincon
of course playing Emergent Ultimatum means you probably win anyway
but it sounds fun

4feri can react to that.

3feriā€™s ability only means you canā€™t cast spells at instant speed, it says nothing about Loyalty abilities.

If 4feri on board it means ur playing this t5. I feel like theres much bigger and better plays to do with 5 mana then nothing. If this had any kind of etb itd be wayy better imo

Itā€™s good in brawl, deffo going in my narset who kick deck.

Right, but it effectively does have an ETB: 4feriā€™s uptick.

i agree that itā€™s not very good but will undoubtedly see play in some blue decks

It cld be pretty funny in a turbo cycling deck cuz cycling counts as drawing so suddenly all ur cycles net u card advantage lol

Cycling decks donā€™t have that much trouble finding their Zenith Flares, to be fair.

U play it to establish dominance

Iā€™ve never played cycling even tho its cheapest deck cuz it looks super boring tbh

yes that about sounds right
cycling decks arenā€™t very stylish