CW redirect is absolutely support
Neither do heals. A heal disrupts the Killerās ability, it doesnāt make your any better off compared to if nothing happened in the first place.
Then Physician is offensive in your definition, the problem is support and Offensive are very similar
I feel like offensive favours more disturbing everyone and support disturbs killers/evils.
Nope. I already said the distinction
Basically:
āIf target player attacks someone prevent the attackā = Offensive
āIf target player is attacked then prevent the attackers attackā = Support
The end result is identical. Thus replace āattackedā with something else and you get:
āIf target player visits someone then occupy themā = Offensive (specifically snare trap)
āIf target player is visited occupy the visitorsā = Support (specifically stand guard)
But how does Cw empowering a investigative prevent the attack?
Just like how swap doesnāt prevent the attackers attack and redirects them.
Support = helping others with certain abilities, heals donāt prevent the attack just save them from it.
Offensive = preventing or disturbing someone targeting a Ability.
Killer/Invest empower and Frenzy are the farthest from offensive btw.
Itās not like truly support abilityās canāt exist, they are just confirmable and thus cause balance issues. The recharge ability CW had for a bit is an example of that
Heals absolutely prevent the attack in every way that counts. You can argue semantics all you want but at the end of the day an attack resolves as a Kill. So if there is no dead body then the attack didnāt fully resolve. If it didnāt resolve then that means it was prevented
Frenzy isnāt offensive I agree. Thatās support its helping the Assassin kill
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Just because something uses the occupy or redirect mechanic doesnāt mean it is automatically offensive
I see your point.
But redirection is offensive even Cws.
Offensive is always about preventing a action if thatās direct or indirect.
Support is about keeping your target from not being killed, or having a negative action aganist it.
Notice most support abilities prevent there faction from being harmed, like frenzy will never negatively effect the Assassin or target or Cw empower will not negatively effect the target.
Offensive will block any sort of action not determined by faction.
Maybe Iām looking into this too much but itās more up to how someone interpritates a class type.
Also just because a class has a Ability doesnāt make its ability fall under its class type
Look at Prince, its a social offensive killer support.
Look at Alch itās support but can kill
Noble gossip is investigative.
So many problems with saying a class Ability falls under its class type.
It does hold in all cases I disagree with SG being a mainly support ability. Same with redirect.