Make ToL 16-Player

One of ToS’s largest problems is that 15 players is difficult to balance. I suggest adding one more to ToL so it can dodge these issues. As I’ve often said, 16-player Mafia is the future.

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Sure, why not? We’ve set it up to be easy to switch the max number of players.

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so now there is 16 players cool

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Love how easy to be resolved it is.

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My favorite thing about this post is how the devs are like “ya sure, okay sounds good. done”

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same tbh

[now if only they’d remove the 20 character post limit]

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make it a 16 character limit

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Well awesome - 16 now it is :wink:

Also done – 2 characters. Thanks for feedback. No point in people making extra filler text if it’s jut going to be “fillerrrrrrrrrrrrr”.

(Btw @orangeandblack5 , don’t flag feedback for moderator review – that’s reserved for inappropriate behavior).

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Trying to get something moved goes under “inappropriate behavior”?

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@orangeandblack5 Ahh my apologies! I thought it was textless – looks different on my desktop :wink: no worries - you did fine.

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Rule of thumb: if you’re going to include a Day One lynch, make your game odd number. If you’re not going to have a Day One lynch, make it an Even number. It’s just the fancy maths.

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It’s a great idea to be flexible with the number of players, especially in Alpha stage.
I also think that with the role conversion aspect and a killer, and an independant killer, a possible traitor king and maybe even an Alchemist you definitely need even more than 16 players, possibly 18 or even 20.

too many players in a single game will be a bit too much I think that 16 people are the perfect amount.

Well, I think you’ll see the answer in Alpha… and the answer will probably not be 16, trust me. There is the Assassin, the Mastermind, the Killer and the non-killer;which means that the game either(16) starts with:
12BD 2BR 2Neutrals or 11BD 3BR 2 Neutrals or 11BD 2BR 3 Neutrals.
A 11 BD 3 BR 2 Neutrals game can, in the worst case(poison, assassination, conversion, NK killing; Not counting alchemist) be a 7BD 4 BR 2 Neutrals game. This game has not that many investigators. And even if you do execute the Assassin for treason right now, then the other BR will now assassinate, and Neutral Killer will kill. Again- that is the worst case, but my point stands. The game can go down very quickly, and finding out BR isn’t that easy, especially until you got rid of the Mastermind.

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and adding more people will make the game more complicated. 16 is a large amount to focus on. having like 20 people will make the game go for longer then it really needs to. anyway, I don’t think the assassination starts with poison he needs to get it otherwise he can kill twice once. anyway, this is assuming the protectors are unable to defend many people from at least 2 killers every night. anyway, the mastermind can only have 2 other members with a day 1 cooldown so it’s still possible to back rose won’t get a member for a while if he fails twice or is role blocked for example

Now make it 17-Player

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Now make it 20

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Now make it 30 player.

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Now make it 100 player

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Now make it 2000 players

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