the wall
But that would be in the interest of a scum sided neut as well. Lots of town Cred for the price of outing someone who would most likely be outed anyways.
Or. You had an indication regarding the state of neutrals in the game and took a risk. Or, heck maybe you are a neutral, and were told that you were the only neutral.flavor claim vig)
My disappointment is immeasurable…
Ami:
i mean
i want to say sorry but it would be disingenuous which tbh is worse than not saying sorry
But if it would be disingenuous then you don’t? Want to apologise?? Like necessarily. What makes it legitimate is the want to make up for ones mistakes.
Maybe it’s time for the pkr claims power role anti meme, pkr claiming underpowered.
Honestly, I’m inclined to believe that this is the truth (that he believes this to be true, not necessarily that hippo was neut). It feels like too outrageous of a claim to be anything other than what he just assumed to be true, and so didn’t look at it critically.
That would also make sense.
This tracks with what I was thinking earlier to be honest. This feels to me like the hip thing was just something he innately assumed to be true, and now he is backing up that realization after the fact.
I’m terms of this, I honestly don’t really know. I’m waiting for some more stuff before I take a stance either way
I don’t like this post. I don’t really think it’s scummy on it’s own, but I don’t like what it promotes. N here is discussing his take and is doing it relatively calmly. Even if you vehemently disagree on said take, he’s still promoting discussion. Which I think makes him not actively griefing anything. And I think you should be a bit more accepting of people who disagree with you.
Again, more and more this feels like something he just assumed was true and then backed it up. Apparently it was because he was unaware of an alternative
I see what you mean here, but from what I’ve been saying I really think it was a genuine, not tmi related, mistake on N’s part, that started this discussion and promoted them to bring up the according Mafia role.
You know, I don’t only talk about mechanics. Most of that was responding to yall. Mechanics I think are just a nice way for me to get into the game so I know a few things, and can start properly understanding posts.
How would y’all rate the possibility of a revenant-like situation?
I mean you realize that I haven’t really had a chance to do much up until now, as I had been focused on defending myself basically all the time I had been online so far, right? I essentially made an opening or two that were focused on mechanics and the rest had been responding to the people constantly pointing toward me. As I’ve said I really was not able to focus on making content of any sort while I was doing that so I was essentially trapped.
Wouldn’t that indicate that Marshal is on his team, not sulit? As he would feel like he needs to answer sulit properly, but he would feel ‘safe’ with Marshal, and so not put much effort into his answers there.
N.1:
yes, i’ve finally come to the terms with the fact that his behavior is NAI for him, but the way he plays is so frustrating for me due to my ptsd that came from supreme bunglements of sfol 53, mafia academy, botf 2, and more, that it’s just not worth the stress not to mention the fact that i might be prone to lash against him in the future again for things that arent scummy for him specifically
I’ll try and understand why it make you mad a bit better, and in doing so explain myself a bit better to you, if you also try and remember this a bit better if we play again later, and in doing so be more readily accepting of my explanation.
Heh. Do you use the windows default snipping tool too? I recognize the defaults.
(Unrelated to the discussion between these two)
big paragraph on this that would clutter this wall
First, acknowledge the possibility that what you have is wrong, and that it can really be anything, and there’s no way at all you can know for sure. Now, gauge how likely it is for that to be right. Do you think somebody with a misinformation ability had reason and ability to target that information? How likely do you think the host is to mess with that stuff? Other, similar questions. Now make your statement, modulated on these probabilities instead of “x visited y so x is probably scum” think along the lines of “x most likely visited y so there’s a good chance x is scum”
ok yeah but like why does that make them likely to be on a scumteam with them. like i understand this is your reason for that, but what does this fact make that likely, is what i dont understand.
yes, but what is your mech info, or did you only say it once, maybe twice, early on, and are now assuming people would be able to get it from implications alone from the majority of the thread (when thats really not feasible).
“due to the situation” does not tell me at all what light’s results are.
this does not tell me at all what light’s results are.
so lights information had something to do with conversion, and yet people think the hippo thing would go against this? best guess i can make from what ive seen so far, but i think thats unlikely
yet you dont say them here.
ok cool so there could be conversion anyways, and thats not what your results are. still dont know what they are.
TrustworthyLiberal:
… BAD LIGHT
if you are alive atleast us it on a living player for actually information
oh yeah, i remember something about something being an effective parity cop somehow, maybe thats this. and it apparently needs to target two people, at least one of which can be dead? maybe it detects if the two people are the same alignment or not? but thats just a direct parity cop, just in a different direction than normal. so maybe. still dont really see how hippo would go against this.
joke about N.1 being in the game, even though you meant Number 1, not the person
so its a parity cop, but it detected a neutral, in 2 uses? somehow?
‘for some reason’? you were right there with her going off on me!
i think we need to look out for the people advocating for my living now, that turn on me later when my play has time to shift.
Cheeki2:
I’m confused
its a play on the standard fm role ‘paranoid gun owner’, a role that attacks people who visit them. variations like choosing when that happens and whatnot are there, but thats the core mechanic of the role.
Centuries:
I mean lol
responding to the rolecard more than this post really, as this is the first time im seeing it.
but if he was already going to die, why would a town hippo post the thing like that? how would the role force him to do that, if he was already going to die soon? i still think hip isnt town from that. a town hip would have given more clarity on that, something like ‘im going to die soon from another role’ maybe ‘im not conforming to its demands so i will actually die after this post, but even if i did i would almost certainly die anyway’
wait then how does it work.
TrustworthyLiberal:
Napoleoons role?
except for kyo’s info, id push for the possibility of there being two scum teams, and napoleon’s passive triggering for either team. it feels like something eevee would do, although on second thought with the relative abundance of flipless kills, i think its unlikely anyway. eevee wouldnt do that and also make it so that he wouldnt have an indication that his passive proc’d
i will say again that i did not really have the room to do much else
on this note. alice said that i said i wanted to die by execution.this was not the case. i said i would not intentionally die without giving town information. i was willing to test guns and die in doing so, but i was not willing to test an ungodly amount of guns and die, without giving concrete information. so i asked her how i could give information, and she said to test two new guns, so that is what i did. the thread then stalled for a bit, so i went to somewhere else, and got caught up for a little bit. (cannot explain further, ongoing game elsewhere on this forum) and when i came back the event was over. also in that time eevee revealed that we could test multiple times. had i come back before the event ended, and had i realized that we could test multiple time what i would have done was incrementally test two more at a time until i died, telling you guys each time. this would kill me, but it would give town a lot of information, including 1 of 2 ita shots that would be guaranteed to hit.
yakuza is a day thing and that says ‘most’ meaning it does not preclude flipless kills in the day or flip kills at night
looks at total posts tfw the amount of posts between me and being caught up has increased since i started this wall
im going to say that even if yall are dead set on killing me, i might be a better target for the noose than an ita.and i know how much that makes it look like im trying to mislead yall into executing me instead of ita-ing a scum me and then executing me but that isnt the case (i bring it up because alice brought it up earlier regarding event 3 and me)
Solic:
And Frost!
(thats not frost)
i mean depending on when that was (i forget) he may have known in advance that it wouldnt hit, making it more a show of force than an ‘actual’ ita in terms of motives and whatnot.
well i cant, but it seems we have it from two separate sources, which adds to it’s credibility. its possible both are lying, but im thinking thats unlikely
an_gorta_pratai:
/insult Italy
if im counting right this is the fifth after event 3
why would we have multiple yakuza in the first place.
well i mean. it supports the idea that theres a GF in the game sure. but its easily possible that a scum gorta saw that there was a GF earlier, and is now just repeating that. imo it confirms you in my eyes a bit more though.
an_gorta_pratai:
Where do I even start with Simon? I think that Simon is harmful to the town regardless of alignment for simply refusing to read. Some of Simon’s posts seem wolfy as hell and being this obtuse to soak up shots does seem like something a wolf would do, but I don’t know. This also seems like something that could coming from a villager who is just being anti-town. If Simon is a villager then he needs to get reported for this because this is harmful behavior to the town.
what ici said
normally i wouldnt have. this is a much too large game for my general liking, and i tend to prefer more off-the-walls games mechanics wise. and if it werent this particular game , if it weren’t community FM, i wouldn’t have
i get that. but its more that my kind of play (no i dont mean only talking about mechanics and nothing else. if you think thats just how my play is please read some of my defense elsewhere in this wall or just elsewhere in the thread.) can start to come into relevance later on in the game, when there are less players, meaning my bad skills when it comes to reading up is less of a downside, and when more mechanical hooks for me to use for reads have been put out there. and yes i mean using a bit of mechanical stuff to make ai reads. it can be done, i have already done it before.
tbh im liking ici right now, so ill keep going through this, but i might have to skip ahead soon.
Icibalus:
/insult N.1
i believe thats 6
tbf ive gotten out of being ‘this deep’ in poe before.
