very interesting. well, in the specific case of mm v poss, if the mm is smart enough to know better than doing dirty work then it should end in a draw, in my opinion, because … no win for poss if he didn’t defeat the unseen. which he clearly didn’t seeing as mm is alive and well
How? The game won’t end so it can never reach a draw.
Also, a smart MM and a dumb MM shouldn’t act any differently because the MM can’t win in this situation.
All options even with a draw auto resolution lead to a loss for the MM. So there is no reason to pick one option over the other besides picking dirty works so they can get to the next game.
But he will defeat the Unseen. It could take an insanely long time but the only possible way for the game to end is with a poss win with a dead assassin. Since that state is obviously a winning state that means poss wins.
The only reason why we even want an auto resolution in the first place is because it’s unfair to make the possessor wait that long if the MM decides to be a dick and stall.
poss attacking every night, and mm trying to convert poss every night, for eternity … should be auto resolved as a draw.
Neither of them would ever succeed but MM has a method of breaking the cycle while poss does not.
If Possessor had something that he could do that would also make it so conversion would kill them then I wouldn’t be saying the same thing.
yes mm can lose on purpose but the only reason he would ever do that is to end the infinite cycle of days and nights, the game should auto end to save everyone the trouble of having to lose on purpose and give the win to his opponent just to end the game
Not sure if anyone cares, but I am totally agreeing with NuclearBurrito on the matter of Possessor auto-win against MM. I just feel it makes more sense than a draw.
Edit: typo
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Yes, I entirely agree.
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Auto wins are bad, give them a mechanic to win.
Rn there is a mechanic for Possessor which helps him to win in 2v1 situations. But you have to lynch the Mastermind/GK/EK. If you fail in that, you kinda deserve the loss. And you can pretty good calculate how many deaths there are, so you don’t end up in a 1v1 with the Mastermind/GK/EK.
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NK is harder, so I think they should auto resolve to their win over a main faction. If not that, a stalemate.
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Both MM and poss lose in a MM vs poss situation
except when MM decides to give the poss the win.
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The NK winrate is decent, no need to buff it. Especially poss, which is the strongest NK imo.
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It’s just that possibility is stupid to exist, because a MM deciding to give the Possessor the win is gamethrowing.
If NK winrate is too high, then nerf it in other areas except resolving end game scenarios in ways that don’t make sense in my opinion.
This is probably harder to realize code wise, but if we’re talking idealistically.
No it isn’t. The Mastermind has a 0% winrate whether he does it or not. Thus letting the Possessor win in this situation isn’t any more gamethrowing than voting with BD as a Pretender in the final 3.
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Oh right, it doesn’t resolve in stalemate? Well then it’s unnecessary kingmaking which is also bad.
Without auto resolution it doesn’t resolve as anything at all until the Mastermind uses Dirty work. At which point it’s a Possessor win.
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Right now it auto resolves via the failsafe timeout unless he uses dirty works
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