(Misc) Blood on the Forums III: Moonlight Badness Signups (14/15) (Signups Closed)

[N.1]

the game does NOT end at parity.

[Simon]

it does not necessarily end at parity
it can, but not because parity means anything special here, and it doesnt have to

[Zone_Q11]

There are 3 Minions now that I have joined, so unless the randing process is rigged, there is a 25% chance the Godfather won’t appear.

If @N.1 is saying the truth about the Storyteller being able to choose whether to add or remove 1 Outsider, then there could potentially be a maximum of one Outsider.
(lol. Imagine negative one Outsider.)

[Zone_Q11]

@Tangeld

Tea Lady : If both of your living neighbors are good, they cannot die.

• Since there is no list-altering role in this setup, would it mean that if one (and only one) of the Tea Lady’s neighbor is evil, that the other neighbor will be forever vulnerable from attacks?
• …does this ability work post-mortem?

@Tangeld

The primary source of interference with abilities in this game is the malfunction. A class that is malfunctioning is not told that they are malfunctioning; if the class is one that gathers information, then the information they receive that night is arbitrary (open-ended, Storyteller may resolve at their discretion), otherwise, the malfunctioning class’ ability simply does not have any effect.

• Is there a limit of how many players are malfunctioning?
• Is the amount of initial malfunctioning players public?

[Tangeld]

@Zone_Q11

Since there is no list-altering role in this setup, would it mean that if one (and only one) of the Tea Lady’s neighbor is evil, that the other neighbor will be forever vulnerable from attacks?

If one of the Tea Lady’s living neighbors is evil, then her ability has no effect (because she does not have two living good neighbors) and neither neighbor is protected. Recall that Tea Lady’s ability only checks her living neighbors.

@Zone_Q11

…does this ability work post-mortem?

Abilities do not work post-mortem unless specifically stated to do so. This was actually covered in the OP, grumble at you for not reading OP.

@Zone_Q11

Is there a limit of how many players are malfunctioning?

There is a practical limit based on how many abilities are present that can possibly cause malfunction; since all abilities that can cause malfunction are made clear in the OP, you should be able to calculate that for yourself.

@Zone_Q11

Is the amount of initial malfunctioning players public?

No, because making that information public would indicate how many characters that could cause malfunction are present. If any effects outside of character abilities that could cause malfunctions were present, however, they would be made known to the players.

[Zone_Q11]

@Tangeld

Recall that Tea Lady’s ability only checks her living neighbors.

Ah. Right.

@Tangeld

This was actually covered in the OP, grumble at you for not reading OP.

@Tangeld

Once a player dies, their ability stops working, which means that a player killed before they would perform their ability on a given night will not perform their ability, and any ability with a persistent effect (such as causing another player to malfunction) will end upon the death of that character.

Forgot about it. My bad.

@Tangeld

There is a practical limit based on how many abilities are present that can possibly cause malfunction; since all abilities that can cause malfunction are made clear in the OP, you should be able to calculate that for yourself.

Humu. Okay.

@Tangeld

No, because making that information public would indicate how many characters that could cause malfunction are present. If any effects outside of character abilities that could cause malfunctions were present, however, they would be made known to the players.

…hm? Are you telling me that nobody starts with a malfunctioning ability, and that they are only able to be caused by another player’s ability?
If that’s the case, then I won’t have to be super-paranoid about them.

[Zone_Q11]

@Tangeld

Grandmother : You start knowing a good player and their character. If that player is killed by the Demon, you die as well.

@Tangeld

Lunatic : You believe that you are the Demon, but you cannot kill. The real Demon knows who you are and who you target each night.

@Tangeld

Godfather : You start the game knowing which Outsiders are in play (but not which players are Outsiders). If an Outsider dies during the day, you may choose a player that night; they die. [-1 or +1 Outsider]

Hm… I suppose only these three can’t be malfunctioning.

[Vulgard]

“She/Her (yes, there are girls on the Internet)”
I chuckled.

[SirDerpsAlot]

@Vulgard

(yes, there are girls on the Internet)”

I call bullshit

[Tangeld]

Those three can definitely malfunction, Zone. No one’s inherently immune to malfunctions. The question is what the malfunction does to them.

[Zone_Q11]

@Tangeld

The primary source of interference with abilities in this game is the malfunction. A class that is malfunctioning is not told that they are malfunctioning; if the class is one that gathers information, then the information they receive that night is arbitrary (open-ended, Storyteller may resolve at their discretion), otherwise, the malfunctioning class’ ability simply does not have any effect.

@Tangeld

Those three can definitely malfunction, Zone. No one’s inherently immune to malfunctions. The question is what the malfunction does to them.

Ah… Grandmother doesn’t die, Godfather doesn’t kill, and Lunatic… receives a false feedback, I assume?

I don’t really bother about those. It’s the information that cannot be faked, since they are told at the start of the game.

[Tangeld]

@Zone_Q11

It’s the information that cannot be faked, since they are told at the start of the game.

Bold of you to assume that there’s no way to make someone malfunction on N1…

[TheBlueElixir]

when does game start

@Tangeld

we’ll likely be starting this in the morning

gimme card

[Amelia]

is it too late to tell you blue that this game is nightstart

[Tangeld]

Need co-host online.

[Zone_Q11]

@Tangeld

Sailor : Each day, choose a living player; either they malfunction tonight and tomorrow day, or you do. You cannot die. (You act on the first night as well.)

@Tangeld

Courtier : Once per game, at night, choose a character; if it is in play, that player malfunctions for three nights and days.

@Tangeld

Pukka : Each night, choose a player; they malfunction until you would next act, and then they die. You may act on the first night.

@Tangeld

Bold of you to assume that there’s no way to make someone malfunction on N1…

Unless you mean to say that the information Grandmother and Godfather receives is scheduled to be given at the End of Night 1, then it is indeed impossible for them to malfunction at Night 1.

As for Lunatic… yeah, no. That one is impossible to malfunction.

[Apprentice]

In general nights are processed in this order:

1. Characters who can make others malfunction
2. Kills
3. Information Gathering

and they all resolve immediately meaning if you’re killed you can’t gather information, and that malfunctions will apply to basically everyone

[katze]

@Tangeld

Bold of you to assume that there’s no way to make someone malfunction on N1…

why are we talking about making @N.1 malfunction

[TheBlueElixir]

what is a

‘nightstart’

oh wait does it start at night

bigth brain

[Tangeld]

Because he’s Channel-Mastered

(I can make that joke because Channel-Master isn’t present for this game, so it’s obviously false)