[Misc] Blood on the Forums IV: Glimpse of the Future (Evil Wins)

[katze]

i told him to fakeclaim

[Amelia]

Of course in the grand scheme of things it didn’t matter because the arbiter didn’t know what they were doing, but I digress

[KyoDaz]

@Wazza

Why lie instead of cc’ing Dat?

I don’t know, because he was obviously openwolfing?
Tell me what purpose ccing Dat would do.

[KyoDaz]

@Amelia

I have a guess as to why
NuclearBurrito starts with all the info, Marshal keeps getting info as long as it lives
Kyo must have claimed nuclear to survive

Precisely. That’s another bonus of claiming it.
If I gave all of my info out as NuclearBurrito I’d be vanilla to the Demon and not a kill target.

[Wazza]

You know a lot of better things than lying about a fucking thunderdome?

[Wazza]

And getting 2 people semi-confirmed as Town who have a high chance of being scum?

[KyoDaz]

Do tell me what thunderdome I lied about

@Wazza

getting 2 people semi-confirmed as Town who have a high chance of being scum?

I highly doubt Storyteller would throw Demon into a 4 person minion PoE when there is already a minion in there

[Wazza]

Redrover / Dat / Priestess you fucking idiot. You claimed it yourself, 2 are Town, 1 is Scum.

[KyoDaz]

I’m a ‘fucking idiot’
Are you stupid?
Tell me how Rover / Dat / Priestess / clonedcheese are three people?
Please learn to count.

[Simon]

Holy Walls Batman!

tf does goblin do

@Icibalus

most notably with the existence of lolHeretic

what does heretic do

@Icibalus

for reference, Heretic is a role that says “Whoever wins, loses, and vice versa (even when dead).”, which is only balanced because to my knowledge no Midnight Demon can kill themselves intentionally (Legion would seem to indicate that)

ah, thank you. nevermind.

@Icibalus

then remove Mephit? its’ absence cripples a lot of the Midnight mechanics in a way that makes this setup uhh
questionable

what does mephit do

@Amelia

Also Damsel was gonna be here too

what does damsel do

@Amelia

Evil Damsel’s wincon was to out herself and die to demon

oh its that one. could have changed it to ‘you lose’ instead of ‘evil wins’

@Amelia

I think it broke marionette

what does marionette do

@Icibalus

sure, Wizard can still wish for conversion, but that’s easier to deal with, since you can just have the downside mess with the problematic elements of conversion

oh so wizard is the datbird in this game then, i guess

@Amelia

Palabra de Dios

what does this do

@Icibalus

since he seemed to believe there wasn’t a Poppy Grower in the game, and I think that holds true even if he’s a wolf?

is poppy grower the… arete?

@SirDerpsAlot

Simon kept track of claims in the class card lol

i did what now?

@Icibalus

oh you’re stableboy

what does stableboy do

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post-wall edit: I barely even know the modified names from this setup, let alone the original ones. heck i dont really know anything thats not TB all that well.

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@Icibalus

actually we can legally nominate and execute you if we wanted to instantly lose the game

yes but thats not an exile, thats an execution.
(im correcting you because you said actually rather than technically or something, which indicates that you were correcting him in this instance, even though he didn’t say anything incorrect)

@KyoDaz

DatBird, clonedcheese, Priestess and Redrover have exactly 0 or 1 minions in them. (I submitted traveler and got told that the total minions near travelers at the time was 0 or 1)

did all travelers only have 4 total neighbors?
also is this assuming that the information is correct or incorrect, i cant tell

@KyoDaz

The most recent message sent by a traveler when I submitted my action had the letter Y an even number of times. You can use this piece of information to confirm me any travelers.

1, doesnt confirm you to town as a whole, only one random traveller (whom it is hard to confirm who that traveller even is, as its hard to know who happened to have sent a message in their rolecard when you got that info.
aswell, what topic did you ask for with this

@KyoDaz

Even if it is false and I have an evil neighbor, SirDerpsAlot cannot be orangeandblack5 as that would make the information false.
But see here. I don’t believe Orangeandblack5 is in play. That’s the whole thing here. Which is why it’s led me to believe Simon is evil.

why cant it be false and have derps be an evil thats not the orange? also what topic did you ask for for this

@KyoDaz

Also the fact you claimed a Marshal was in play yet the openwolfer literally claimed Marshal would’ve had you killed directly on the spot. You simply cannot be evil

what do you mean here? i cant argue or debate what your saying if i honestly have no idea what your theory is.

@KyoDaz

I also took out those three people from this info

what do you mean you took those 3 from that info. you only listed 2 people in that post.
also you should leave deductions like that out from your logs, it can make them seem ungenuine. just put an asterisk explaining why person a b or c cant be the minion in this group or something

@KyoDaz

That’s also how I knew Icibalus and Amelia were telling the truth.
Two minions just couldn’t exist in the four people I was given.

wait, were you given 4 people, or 7?

@SirDerpsAlot

Isn’t the Luxy or whatever a thing so evils don’t know each other

im the one claiming luxy. if kyo thinks im demon then that part doesnt matter. no point in arguing it.

@KyoDaz

Simon claims Luxy and I’m pretty sure he’s lying

yeah see its this.

@Hippolytus

yeah simon does seem pretty dodge i wouldnt mind killing him tbf

i just replaced in somewhat recently, so i missed a good portion of conversations. im bad at reads but im good at getting reads from others reads (yes i account for the fact that some people will be intentionally engineering false reads). so im kinda out of it until something catches my eye or i can kinda get a feel of the conversation. i cant be bothered to go back and read ~2000 odd posts, but because of this summarizing doesnt really do me any good.

@KyoDaz

Simon is evil if orangeandblack5 doesn’t exist.

or your channelmastered or otherwise poisoned/drunk (if thats possible in this script), or derps is evil and not the orange. just because you dont think he is doesnt mean its not possible.

@KyoDaz

No but nobody alive has played to the Orangeandblack5 role

that only really means that nobody who was executed is the orange

@KyoDaz

SDA has also confirmed that Arete is one of the minions. So it’s unlikely the other one rolled OaB5

thats assuming hes not evil himself. you treat something he claimed as a fact when showing how he’s town (you can however use it against me)

@N.1

he got vulgard’s approval

thats irrelevant to my question. i know he got vulgard’s approval. i was asking kyo why they thought that ici would need their permission to shoot uni.

@Amelia

Of note is that my most recent message to kyo when he got the Y thing contained 4 Ys, so I think that’s correct

this doesnt account for messages sent by a traveller in their rolecards. also it refers to the last traveller-post (i.e. any traveller) so do you think that no traveller posted between that post of yours and kyo getting his information in the night?

@Wazza

Dat (ded) - Marshal - Confirmed if SDA is real.

no you bagel im p sure he was part of kyo’s FPS. kyo is the marshal
upon reading down a bit (writing this before the next part of this wall yall can hust i dont edit these things usually and when i do you know) maybe he wasnt. well idk how that worked out by kyo is the marshal

@Wazza

Additionally if SDA is real and confirms Dat, and Kyo is real, that means…Redrover is fake.

hooowwww??

@Wazza

You know a lot of better things than lying about a fucking thunderdome?

idk the details, but kyo is saying that derps was openwolfing so if thats true it wouldnt really be a thunderdome. it would be more of a “alright yeah its definitely kyo telling the truth and dat is a liar”

[Wazza]

when the actual fuck did I say cloned

[KyoDaz]

@Wazza

You claimed it yourself, 2 are Town, 1 is Scum.

Which DatBird literally CC’d my role which is Marshal

[Wazza]

cloned was thunderdomed by SDA.

[KyoDaz]

I have a four person PoE, not three

[Simon]

@Simon

post-wall edit: I barely even know the modified names from this setup, let alone the original ones. heck i dont really know anything thats not TB all that well.

above this line is me asking about roles and basically nothing else. derps said i did a thing above it but i dont think its relevant

[Wazza]

@N.1

Marshal : Each day, privately in your classcard, choose a 1 word topic on which the Storyteller tells you 1 fact. You cannot choose a topic that you have already chosen or a topic that is blatantly a synonym of a topic you have already chosen. If you attempt either of those, you will be told to re-select your topic. If an alive neighbor is evil, you get false info.

Results then or am I reading this wrong?

[KyoDaz]

SDA claims Hail
Not HTM???

[Simon]

you were quoted the results already

[Wazza]

You don’t understand a thing I said.

[Wazza]

HE DOES NOW.

I was on about back then when we had 3 thunderdomes.