[Misc] Blood on the Forums IV: Glimpse of the Future (Evil Wins)

[Geyde]

Why would I not push Dat directly then
Meta push would not be out of bad faith

[DatBird]

@Redrover1760

Not to mention, Geyde went ahead and also decided to PM Napoleon and not to out it, and instead went silent about it after the initial conversation with DatBird, but instead PM’d their neighbor to point out the ISO’s flaws and ask them to help mislynch DatBird instead of outing it publically.

@Redrover1760

Now Geyde is gonna try to backpeddle for Napoleon’s mistake, right?

@Redrover1760

Ah yes, of course, then why did you do it in PMs instead of public? This implies you are hiding something to the rest of us.

@Redrover1760

It’s the Wazza situation all over again. You have something to hide.

All of these posts have agenda. Every one of them

[Geyde]

Unless you thought I was trying to pocket Napoleon, there should be no reason you think my slot is scum by my actions being entirely suboptimal in w/w world

[Napoleon]

@Redrover1760

First, tell me what you mean by “This”

???

@Redrover1760

Second, explain why you aren’t a wolf.

I’m not a wolf because:

• I steered this conversation away from useless mech talk
• I analyzed reads and evaluated them myself. My initial reads were actually Hippo town and Amelia town (which I had discussed with Geyde in PM; Geyde agreed with Amelia but disagreed with my analysis with Hippo, I think they took it as null. Their logic weakened my townread on Hippo but still slight V)
• If you believe that Geyde and I were PMing, it makes little sense as Minions would have a scum chat that’s usable at day (I assume this, check OP, they can’t communicate at night tho).
  • Which means that this was orchestrated by us in scumchat (if you think W/W, consider the possibility of the use of PM vs scumchat)
• I am Kape and I told you that: “Arete’s keyword doesnt start with a vowel”. An early-game claim could be done as scum, but I’ve pretty much been open with this so far.
• Why have I been PMing? I guess I just like a small enclosed neighbourhood as it tends to be better at revealing peoples’ true thoughts in an environment where people might feel more secure.

[Redrover1760]

@Geyde

Your argument is that I’m a wolf because I didn’t say it in the main thread, and that I was corroborating with someone else to push Dat

There is one reasonwhy I use the whisper over main thread:
To get a better read on the player I’m talking with

Finally. An explanation. So you wanted to get a read on Napoleon. However your ping for Datbird 4 hours in is still a bit suspicious, but I’m glad I finally have a reasonable explanation for the actions here. Took way too long but yeah.

[Geyde]

Ehh
Maybe?

I don’t think they took things completely out of context minus their end reasoning

[DatBird]

Like all of this is oddly defending me, by my own admission I havent been on thread much, either doing other stuff on forums or playing video games. Like Geyde and Nap know my scum meta its horrible, so when concerns show they have the right to post about it. But you saying they are trying to throw a mislynch on me just because they discussed reads out of thread is so off to me

[Redrover1760]

@N.1

There is NO scum chat. Players may communicate only in the public thread or via whisper. If you whisper someone that is not your neighbor, there will be a record of that having occurred in the public thread for the entire game, so be careful if you’re evil to stop easy associations based on whisper patterns from being made.

You mean this?

[Geyde]

This might be t/t, t/s
Rover is unlikely w/w with nap unless something completely fucky is going on

[Redrover1760]

@Napoleon

• If you believe that Geyde and I were PMing, it makes little sense as Minions would have a scum chat that’s usable at day (I assume this, check OP, they can’t communicate at night tho).
• Which means that this was orchestrated by us in scumchat (if you think W/W, consider the possibility of the use of PM vs scumchat)

Yeah okay so your TMI is impressive and all but at least I remembered there is no scum chat.

[Redrover1760]

Anti-TMI I mean sorry

[DatBird]

The fact they came in posted about other things and left really annoys me

[Redrover1760]

@Napoleon

• Why have I been PMing? I guess I just like a small enclosed neighbourhood as it tends to be better at revealing peoples’ true thoughts in an environment where people might feel more secure.

PMs are not secure at all for anything, and true thoughts are most certainly aren’t any more secure in a PM where the other person can be wolf.

[Geyde]

What this conversation does make me feel better about is dat’s slot
Mainly because they’d have reason not to intervene against Rover of all people if they were scum unless Nap was scum

Nap’s responses to me in private thread were likely influenced by me being me, but for the most part I didn’t feel bad about their posts

[Napoleon]

@Napoleon

I’m not a wolf because:

• I steered this conversation away from useless mech talk
• I analyzed reads and evaluated them myself. My initial reads were actually Hippo town and Amelia town (which I had discussed with Geyde in PM; Geyde agreed with Amelia but disagreed with my analysis with Hippo, I think they took it as null. Their logic weakened my townread on Hippo but still slight V)
• I am Kape and I told you that: “Arete’s keyword doesnt start with a vowel”. An early-game claim could be done as scum, but I’ve pretty much been open with this so far.
• Why have I been PMing? I guess I just like a small enclosed neighbourhood as it tends to be better at revealing peoples’ true thoughts in an environment where people might feel more secure.

@N.1

There is NO scum chat. Players may communicate only in the public thread or via whisper. If you whisper someone that is not your neighbor, there will be a record of that having occurred in the public thread for the entire game, so be careful if you’re evil to stop easy associations based on whisper patterns from being made.

I probably worded this poorly but I think my point still stands. What do you think we’ve been talking about in our PM? How to lynch DatBird together? On our reads of others?

@Napoleon

What’s this “mistake” I made?

Answer this pls lol

@Redrover1760

Yeah okay so your TMI is impressive and all but at least I remembered there is no scum chat.

I actually didn’t read anything this game. I mistook the meaning for my own role.

[Napoleon]

I can’t refute your arguments if you don’t expand on them.

[Geyde]

@Geyde

What this conversation does make me feel better about is dat’s slot
Mainly because they’d have reason not to intervene against Rover of all people if they were scum unless Nap was scum

I believe this is very important to note here

[Redrover1760]

@Napoleon

Answer this pls lol

The mistake would have been you outing it early instead of Geyde outing it early instead.

[Napoleon]

What’s “it”? The PM or the DatBird shade?

[Redrover1760]

Not to mention revealing it as a PM communication with Geyde.

Honestly you should have waited for Geyde to communicate even if everyone we are talking about except Datbird is town.