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#1784

ok

Intensify - Retro
Arete + Cloned - some unspecified Minion

  • misinfo that needs ot be accounted for in this theory: Tan’s red on Gorta N3, Whysper’s green on me (note that she got a red on cloned N3), PKR’s red on Ghana N1
  • PKR’s red on Ghana could in theory come either from Viceroy!cloned (the poison would pass through Intensify), or from Retro poison. Gorta/PKR are the only people who could be Viceroy’d in this world if a Viceroy exists. None of the others could come from Retro poison since that only works N1, so there’s no way for both Tan and Whysper to be malfunctioning, so that world isn’t possible.
#1785

so no, what you’re proposing isn’t possible

#1786

first of all it’s they

also it should be your job to find them. The burden of proof is on you.

#1787

That means you’re good. So why are you acting so blind? We kill Intensify, I prove Whysper tonight. If I die, we kill Whysper anyway.

#1788

No, it isn’t. I never accepted that. It would be like if I told you to compile an iso of a certain player when you aren’t feeling like it.

#1789

you’re trying to prove if someone is evil in a worldview. So you make it.

#1790

I shouldn’t need to.
I never said that Whysper is town, I said that they aren’t Demon and we should hunt Demon before all else.

#1791

What if intensify is town? Look dude, you’re gonna die. There is no way scum is letting you live. Just kill Whysper if that’s your logic.

#1792

Doesn’t matter; we can’t confirm Intensify either way.

#1793

but if we have a secondhand don’t we just lose

#1794

Not certainly, no. Even if Intensify is town and two people die, as long as one town member lives we’re fine.

#1795

because I have tried to find worlds where Whysper is good, and I couldn’t, whereas I can find worlds where Intensify is good

maybe that means I didn’t try hard enough, which is why I’m asking other people for help

but in worlds where all three evils are still alive, or worlds where you’re evil, then not killing Whysper today is a game-losing play

if Intensify is the Demon and Whysper is a Minion, then if we kill Whysper today we still have another chance to go for Intensify tomorrow

if Intensify is town and Whysper is the Demon (or even just a Minion), then if we kill Intensify today there might not be a tomorrow

#1796

Because I talked with Light after that and he said it was obvious I should be checking Cloned. Magnus wasn’t even one of the people he thought worth checking. He mentioned you and Intensify as other possibilities. But he seemed to want Cloned verified.

#1797

@Aelin can you confirm this

#1798
  • Arete
  • an_gorta_pratai
  • Magnus
  • Whysper
  • Intensify
  • GGhana

If Intensify, me, and… Ghana, let’s say, are killed, we still have Arete for example. There’s no way we have three evils alive.

#1799

That seems like an easy excuse to not put any sus on any alive players.

Plus I’m struggling to find worlds where your red check makes sense

#1800

Arete, I guarantee you there’ll be a tomorrow.
I guarantee it.

#1801

there won’t because intensify is either the demon or town

#1802

Yes, this was suggested by Light. He actually made it seem like it was obvious that Cloned should be checked. He talked about how his whole plan originally was to get mutual green checks between the 2 of us. That’s why he was kind of peeved that I had switched to Silviu the first time. But now he wanted me to still check Cloned.

#1803

well actually if he’s town there might be a tomorrow

I’m not prepared to risk it