[Misc] Blood on the Forums V: Ides of Blood - Good Wins!

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#1163

See, that still doesn’t make his EoD2 make sense, because why selfvote as a Minion and put yourself at L-1 when there was basically never going to be an execution at all without your selfvote?

#1164
#1165

realistic depiction of what will happen to you if you shoot angles

#1166

I physically can not stop myself from having it
I’m just stopping myself from saying it

#1167

If Magnus Retro, Gorta Minion, Stalker Retro poisoned N1:
Ghana obviously not Minion because Stalker’s poisoned and getting bad info
PKR obviously not Minion because lolthiswholetheorynecessitateshimbeingtown
Intensify possible Minion, but wowee move at EoD2, I just explained this
Cloned super unlikely Minion because their info and behavior make perfect sense from town in this world
Whysper possible Minion, but why show Minion as Demon to malfunctioning Soothsayer when you could just show them as town?
Light super unlikely Minion because lolD1selfyeet, plus we almost certainly have Effigy in this world because Chieftain claim would be Demon, so the Outsider claim checks out
Arete… actually, wait, could Arete be the second Minion in this world? Did we have any info clearing them?

#1168

Whysper has an alignment check on Silviu as good

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#1169

…Okay, that would mean either Whysper or Intensify most likely the second Minion in that world.

#1170

Not thrilled with either of those possibilities, but their plays at least make more sense coming from Minion than Demon.

#1171

By the way, I have Intensify’s claim, should I go ahead and call that one out?

#1172

that’s probably fine, we were going to make him claim anyway

#1173

Already did

#1174

Tan

help me understand your PoV here

I feel like you’re really resistant to worlds where Whysper is the Demon

#1175

We already established that your info and Magnus’ info all being true, and mine presumably being false because Viceroy Ghana, would make Whysper not Demon. Unless I missed some development while I was tinfoiling?

#1176

it’s more–

–when you were worldbuilding for the world where Magnus is the Demon, and you were trying to come up with a second minion, you were a lot more … able to generate hypotheses, if that makes sense? (such as me being the second Minion)

which you weren’t really considering when you were trying to figure out who could be a minion with Whysper demon (to be fair I don’t really make sense to be a minion with Whysper demon, but you didn’t really consider it at all)

I’ve also felt that you’ve been relatively fast to agree with me when I said pro-Whysper things? e.g.

#1177

my info + Magnus’s info only make Whysper not the Demon if Gorta is evil (or technically if Magnus is evil)

right?

#1178

Wait, why not if they’re both good again?

#1179

Something something eclipse

#1180

…Oh, never mind, I’m dumb, Magnus’ info means nothing if they’re both good because clockhand wouldn’t have hit Light yet anyway.

#1181

Unless Magnus is the Eclipse’s target, but he got true info N1.

#1182

Okay, I feel like I’m missing a step here. The way it’s working in my head now is

If Whysper Retro
Arete’s info would say that both Magnus and Gorta are good
Unless one of them is Eclipse and skipped over themselves
That would make Light now the clockhand
But Magnus has that the clockhand isn’t an Outsider
My info says Gorta Minion
This doesn’t sync with Arete’s info unless Gorta is the Eclipse
But then that doesn’t sync with Magnus’ info