Morphogenetic Mafia - Thread B

I have to do some serious reading myself

dont do this to my heart please its very rude

So Iā€™m here looking through Chloeā€™s iso again

Marshal and GGhana both attacked her early for her openers

Her reaction to Marshal was to turn up the omgus to 150%

While at the same time, she was doing this dance with gghana that looked like she was kind of dismissing his read and later she stumbled on village reading gghana for it

and the line of reasoning was ā€œthis is so weird it warps around to being villageryā€

and she continued pressing the fuck out of marshal during all of this

wowee

her opener is basically my biggest concern

itā€™s just so weh

i came into today expecting to be dead or for her to be dead and now weā€™re both alive at lylo lol

ill prob ask sulit about marl but weh

itā€™s still a fairly confident Chloe V read im just under a lot of pressure cause like, the game hinges on it?

i do think ephmanti has to be a wolf though, Chloe/Ghana as a team just doesnā€™t feel feasible which means the only teams left are Ghana/Eph and Chloe/Eph

and if itā€™s ghana chloe then Iā€™ll feel like a banana

im lazy enough to want to just say ā€œsoul V fuck it gg ezā€ but Iā€™d be way too sad if I just refused to read her closer because of laziness and ego

Iā€™m here to talk

I donā€™t think Iā€™ll honestly get too much out of an ISO skim of her

but I think I can at least look at what w/w worlds do and dont make sense

rule

of

three

:crab:

bronana iā€™m a villager

pls start readingšŸ¤§

school lines up like

mega-shittily for this lylo/mylo
and i apologize for my absence today

gunna try to jam out irl stuff as quickly as i can so i can come fuckin dunk on gorta and eph

:orangutan:

marl literally early piled onto manti

theyā€™re trying to end the game lol

my eyes are ~closed when it comes ot the chloe/ghana world

but i imagine if that world is the case thereā€™s a chance i see glimpses of it by the time iā€™m done

@Chloe you mentioned towncasing yourself

itā€™s cringe but do it anyway

:^)

@Marshal so min says that Marl is also voting maple, but says itā€™s for towncred

gorta do you have any thoughts at all

like, a single alignment indicative post

not really, but Iā€™ll work on that (I still have a bit of reading to do)

so hana does a full 180 on chloe as soon as kat shows the first hint of potentially reading chloe V afaict?(before the read was even in effect) and starts exclusively tunneling vul/ybw

holistically it adds up as hana completely dropping his push on chloe as soon as the heat on her started to die down and then never looked back

using kats meta read on chloe to clear their partner and never look twice on it eh

From the Min side of things theyā€™ve apparently had a horribly opportunistic switch from eli v on d1 > eli w d2

seems like Min was trying to use the read hana was repping over in B as a front to give them room to flip the read and it looked sloppy as shit

tl;dr hana/chloeā€™s treatments of each other in the early portions of the game are clumsy as shit and it shows through their reads being opportunistic af

my expert analysis on chloe is that i may have been too easy to clear her

weh

reads are bad because iā€™m bad at them

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The Ramblings of ChloeFreakinB
(while multitasking homework)


Eph is recently trying to discredit me by agreeing with the one thing Marshal and kat think is wolfy about my play this game, which is my opener
Heā€™s appealing to what you guys view as the weak aspect of my play this game, and pushing that angle, because itā€™s literally the only angle he can take

Everything I said was my genuine thoughts
I was annoyed and frustrated that I was being w-read, when, in my mind, I view myself as a pretty damn obvious villager

I disliked Marshalā€™s RQS without followthrough, I disliked his push on me and thought it was in bad-faith, as he was nitpicking my posts and cherrypicking things that could be seen as wolfy
In hindsight, it was a shit ton of OMGUS because Iā€™m not
used
to being scumread
as a villager
lol

I am the worldā€™s most godawful wolf
Hydra-ing with the worldā€™s second most godawful wolf (barring sulit)
Marl was found d1 in his 2 wolfgames since returning from a bigass break
I havent been a wolf since July (?), unless you count my possessor game

I struggle with TMI a lot as a wolf
I have an inability to hold good tone
I rely on mechanics to get me through games, a lot
I fake bled, I fake medium, i fake masons, etc etc
I think if I were a wolf iā€™d have claimed a pr lol, and probably pretty early
And I sure as hell canā€™t get kat to townread me for 3 days straight lmfao
Or vul to townread me d1
i dont think im capable of that

on nightkills
I kill kat n1
like
100% of the time
and if not n1 then n2
i dont see a world in which i dont

marl and i have had genuine conversations regarding the game and the state of thread a vs thread b
weā€™ve discussed our reads and how they vary and differ
i gave in to his tunnel on night because i couldnt see what night was writing, and i also didnt have like
anything i could say to convince him vul was a villager other than ā€˜i think vul is just trying something newā€™

i hard scumread marshal and marl hard townread blizer
we talked about it for a long time and i decided to chalk my scumread up to omgus and just sheep the fact that blizer was apparently being mega-villager in A

i talked with marl in detail about how to go about reading sulit, and eli
i told him exactly what to look for from both
he gave me updates on both slots throughout the game, and told me where things lined up with their town/scummetas
i decided to give eli more time than just dunking on him d1 because, though he was frozen, i know he freezes as a villager too (like he did in jojofm)
i figured the 12h night, and having more content for him to read would allow him to thaw out, and would give both me and marl a better read on the slot

yesterday i was pretty damn set on wazza being a wolf for having a shit ton of salty-wolf posts that felt like TMIā€™ing nightkills and projecting his mistakes onto other people
i cased him
and he proceeded to, fmpov, openwolf, with the nea claim and rolefishing attempt
i realized it was possible he was a villager because i literally couldnt think of any teams that had him, except TL - but even then, i saw that as unlikely
i didnt feel comfortable CFDing to TL at eod, so i decided to stay the course

Flipping wazza:
A. had a high chance to be a wolf from his behavior
B. had the benefit of getting a detriment to town out of the game
C. allowed us to focus on things outside of the circular thought process of ā€œguys idk if wazza is a wolf!!ā€ and ā€œno wazza is lockwolf!!ā€ and solve with the knowledge of his alignment. its a positive for the threadstate in multiple ways

on kat
i wasnt sure of his alignment towards the start of the game
he wasnt being very townie at all, and everything he posted was within his scumrange
it took me a while to come around on him, but he started posting a lot of shit that i found much more likely to come from v!kat
i thopught there was a chance he could be w/w with vulgard, so i went into the night making sure to voice a caveat in the read, and explain that i could see kat being a wolf if vul were to flip wolf. after vul flipped green, and i didnt die n1, my read on kat became near lock
and i realized that the reason he seemed like he didnt give a shit was because:

  1. he honestly didnt give a shit, and was simply posting because he had an obligation to
  2. he was probably a pr

kat literally said at one point, ā€œthe answer to your question is ā€˜yesā€™ā€ which i took as a pr claim lmao
i started to doubt this at SoD today because i thought he woulda died by now if that were true
and i thought wolves would kill in the masons
so i went into katā€™s ISO to make sure i wasnt misclearing him
then he claimed parity cop

when he claimed parity cop i thought it was legitimately fake, and that he was doing it for reactions
i thought he was going to literally reveal as IC because itā€™d be the only way he could rescind the claim and not have marshal tunnel the everliving fuck out of him
i even softed this to him by saying ā€œi see what youre doingā€ lmfao

oh also
i tried to do some pr cover in this game
albeit shittily
but ive been trying to get better at staying in PR PoE recently, so i decided to drop like
some hints
like when i was talking to wazza i said i had reasons to believe some of his shit was fake, but it would be bad to out it bc it was mech-based
i stopped PR talk from peopl at multiple points
i hinted a few times about having things to say but thinking it would be -EV to say them
i took a while to react to wazzaā€™s nea claim because i didnt wanna acidentally spew myself not pr

everything ive done has been like
pretty much impossible for me to fake as a wolf
and as a wolf i would have played this game very differently
same with marl
if you want marl to towncase himself too i can tell him to get on it, but hes sleeping soon

today i honestly dont give a shit which of gorta/eph dies
fmpov the game is locked
weā€™re voting eph because iā€™d rather 1v1 gorta tomorrow than eph
and marl would rather 1v1 min than manti in f3
even though i think gorta has pr potential from how gghana acted today, i dont see a world in which they can win overnight, so i dont really care

tldr:
im not a wolf
iso me for reads