Morphogenetic Mafia - Thread B

i have certain reservations w/r/t gghana

they’re pending a reread but

Off the top of my head one of the worst bits I can remember from them was their approach/push on vulgard, which now looks uber👀 with vul flipping v

i’m just

not confident enough in this rn lol

starting to fall for the “too ez to be tru” trap it seems🤧

wait why do people think my push on Vulgard was bad

He was acting in a wolfy way, we kill people who are acting in a wolfy way because they’re probably wolves.

part of me wants to tinfoil a wild chloe/kat world where they just hardclear each other and power to a win tbhtbh

but admittedly that may not be the intelligent part of me

Nobody could give any arguments besides “He’s sandbagging” and “He’s too skilled to be caught” which are about as convincing as trying to get out of a murder trial by saying you ate too many twinkies

im not even surprised vul flipped V and im still not convinced people read his posts beyond meta

blizer dying confuses me a lot

ftr i didn’t take issue with you pushing him

once again, it’s the way it came off that was concerning

it felt disingenuous for a lack of a better word?

and as you may recall i had similar vibes from you at other points which increases the concern

but i’m toying with the possibility that it’s just how you come off naturally which would make it probably NAI

I have a feeling that I can’t really defend myself here so I’m just gonna ignore it (no offence)

luckily for you her wolf range is about as small as YBWs ISO

:joy_cat:

is that tru

if so gamer

maybe a slight exaggeration but i think anyone who’s played with her knows it’s not wide

Still baffled blizer died i don’t actually know how to process it weh

If I strip his game bare and ignore the petty arguments with others and the fluff surrounding everything, what am I left with.

First I’m going to lay out what I know of GGhana. He thinks he’s good, but to him, he knows he’s good. He has extreme self confidence and base intuition usually rooted in logic. He’s also aggro as fuck and plays to bully wolves into submisison.

I said GGhana wolf but I’m going to go into this as unbiased as possible and try to see what i can see

Summary

This is what i found relevant from the first ~100 or so posts of his ISO

I’ll touch on what I see here, probably expand later

Starting with the attempts to gauge alignments (the questions/reactiontests/etc)

It feels oddly sidelined in comparison to what i’d expect. There just isn’t really drilling, there’s probing and prodding but none of it shows the urge to really get people to crumble. I’ll take the example that stuck out to me most

This doesn’t really display an attempt to actually catch wolves or find villagers, and he peppers in this really awkward unprompted “I’m doing this because I want to solve alignments and catch wolves!”. I feel like if he were to really try to get a reaction he wouldn’t say this, it’s letting wolves build up their defenses and I think he’d recognize this.

As for the actual reads… M M M
I don’t really a distinct effort to actually find villagers? It’s again more passive than I’d expect and honestly kinda l1-y in a way that doesn’t feel right. He throws down a blanket wolfread on vul for lacking energy and YBW for hedge,

Chloe read is… it’s whatever. I could see this coming from villager, there’s ramping up confidence and I agreed with his reasoning. Within realm of fakeability I suppose. I can’t say more

And again he doesn’t really try to identify villagers, he says my thoughts are natural once or twice but I can’t actually see how he gets there on anyone else

it’s possible he’s just taking a more passive approach than I’d be used to but his posts seem really off for how I know GGhana as a person

This is in PoE at the very least
I don’t see a reason this should be or is town when looking at game as a whole

ngl vulgard’s late posts weren’t terrible but I thought night was dead to rights and didn’t like any other direction (Definitely not YBW that day)

but

that’s whatevs

I’m not reading chloe’s ISO, I’m accepting her as a villager and that she’s gonna get killed by woalfs if she is

I’ll accept kat as a villager too

I’ll fuckin do it

because im lazy, and don’t wish to read

this is the way

Village:

Marshal
YBW
Chloe
Katze

Maybe village but not quite there:

Wazza

PoE:

TrustworthyLiberal
GGhana

(tbd: Ephemeral)

chloes towntell is typing like a drunkard and i’d like to say she’s met the criteria

im not sure what my purpose is anymore given i was gonna come into D2 tunneling marshal an the only thing that stopped me from doing it yesterday was sulit thinking blizer was okay

:joy_cat: and now half the slot is dead

im asking myself if its clearing

it probably is

but i don’t want it to be

Marshal I dont get what youre talking about? Chloe and you are both obvious villagers, and at that point our goal is to find wolves, this is a 9er I shouldnt be townhunting I should be scumhunting

And I’ve been taking a back seat because the whole “tunneling people and being constantly aggro” Isn’t sustainable, I’ve been trying to calm down gradually over my past few games.

sounds like this is my cue to link that newcomb article😂