@Marshal so min says that Marl is also voting maple, but says it’s for towncred
so hana does a full 180 on chloe as soon as kat shows the first hint of potentially reading chloe V afaict?(before the read was even in effect) and starts exclusively tunneling vul/ybw
holistically it adds up as hana completely dropping his push on chloe as soon as the heat on her started to die down and then never looked back
using kats meta read on chloe to clear their partner and never look twice on it eh
From the Min side of things they’ve apparently had a horribly opportunistic switch from eli v on d1 > eli w d2
seems like Min was trying to use the read hana was repping over in B as a front to give them room to flip the read and it looked sloppy as shit
tl;dr hana/chloe’s treatments of each other in the early portions of the game are clumsy as shit and it shows through their reads being opportunistic af
my expert analysis on chloe is that i may have been too easy to clear her
weh
reads are bad because i’m bad at them
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The Ramblings of ChloeFreakinB
(while multitasking homework)
Eph is recently trying to discredit me by agreeing with the one thing Marshal and kat think is wolfy about my play this game, which is my opener
He’s appealing to what you guys view as the weak aspect of my play this game, and pushing that angle, because it’s literally the only angle he can take
Everything I said was my genuine thoughts
I was annoyed and frustrated that I was being w-read, when, in my mind, I view myself as a pretty damn obvious villager
I disliked Marshal’s RQS without followthrough, I disliked his push on me and thought it was in bad-faith, as he was nitpicking my posts and cherrypicking things that could be seen as wolfy
In hindsight, it was a shit ton of OMGUS because I’m not
used
to being scumread
as a villager
lol
I am the world’s most godawful wolf
Hydra-ing with the world’s second most godawful wolf (barring sulit)
Marl was found d1 in his 2 wolfgames since returning from a bigass break
I havent been a wolf since July (?), unless you count my possessor game
I struggle with TMI a lot as a wolf
I have an inability to hold good tone
I rely on mechanics to get me through games, a lot
I fake bled, I fake medium, i fake masons, etc etc
I think if I were a wolf i’d have claimed a pr lol, and probably pretty early
And I sure as hell can’t get kat to townread me for 3 days straight lmfao
Or vul to townread me d1
i dont think im capable of that
on nightkills
I kill kat n1
like
100% of the time
and if not n1 then n2
i dont see a world in which i dont
marl and i have had genuine conversations regarding the game and the state of thread a vs thread b
we’ve discussed our reads and how they vary and differ
i gave in to his tunnel on night because i couldnt see what night was writing, and i also didnt have like
anything i could say to convince him vul was a villager other than ‘i think vul is just trying something new’
i hard scumread marshal and marl hard townread blizer
we talked about it for a long time and i decided to chalk my scumread up to omgus and just sheep the fact that blizer was apparently being mega-villager in A
i talked with marl in detail about how to go about reading sulit, and eli
i told him exactly what to look for from both
he gave me updates on both slots throughout the game, and told me where things lined up with their town/scummetas
i decided to give eli more time than just dunking on him d1 because, though he was frozen, i know he freezes as a villager too (like he did in jojofm)
i figured the 12h night, and having more content for him to read would allow him to thaw out, and would give both me and marl a better read on the slot
yesterday i was pretty damn set on wazza being a wolf for having a shit ton of salty-wolf posts that felt like TMI’ing nightkills and projecting his mistakes onto other people
i cased him
and he proceeded to, fmpov, openwolf, with the nea claim and rolefishing attempt
i realized it was possible he was a villager because i literally couldnt think of any teams that had him, except TL - but even then, i saw that as unlikely
i didnt feel comfortable CFDing to TL at eod, so i decided to stay the course
Flipping wazza:
A. had a high chance to be a wolf from his behavior
B. had the benefit of getting a detriment to town out of the game
C. allowed us to focus on things outside of the circular thought process of “guys idk if wazza is a wolf!!” and “no wazza is lockwolf!!” and solve with the knowledge of his alignment. its a positive for the threadstate in multiple ways
on kat
i wasnt sure of his alignment towards the start of the game
he wasnt being very townie at all, and everything he posted was within his scumrange
it took me a while to come around on him, but he started posting a lot of shit that i found much more likely to come from v!kat
i thopught there was a chance he could be w/w with vulgard, so i went into the night making sure to voice a caveat in the read, and explain that i could see kat being a wolf if vul were to flip wolf. after vul flipped green, and i didnt die n1, my read on kat became near lock
and i realized that the reason he seemed like he didnt give a shit was because:
- he honestly didnt give a shit, and was simply posting because he had an obligation to
- he was probably a pr
kat literally said at one point, “the answer to your question is ‘yes’” which i took as a pr claim lmao
i started to doubt this at SoD today because i thought he woulda died by now if that were true
and i thought wolves would kill in the masons
so i went into kat’s ISO to make sure i wasnt misclearing him
then he claimed parity cop
when he claimed parity cop i thought it was legitimately fake, and that he was doing it for reactions
i thought he was going to literally reveal as IC because it’d be the only way he could rescind the claim and not have marshal tunnel the everliving fuck out of him
i even softed this to him by saying “i see what youre doing” lmfao
oh also
i tried to do some pr cover in this game
albeit shittily
but ive been trying to get better at staying in PR PoE recently, so i decided to drop like
some hints
like when i was talking to wazza i said i had reasons to believe some of his shit was fake, but it would be bad to out it bc it was mech-based
i stopped PR talk from peopl at multiple points
i hinted a few times about having things to say but thinking it would be -EV to say them
i took a while to react to wazza’s nea claim because i didnt wanna acidentally spew myself not pr
everything ive done has been like
pretty much impossible for me to fake as a wolf
and as a wolf i would have played this game very differently
same with marl
if you want marl to towncase himself too i can tell him to get on it, but hes sleeping soon
today i honestly dont give a shit which of gorta/eph dies
fmpov the game is locked
we’re voting eph because i’d rather 1v1 gorta tomorrow than eph
and marl would rather 1v1 min than manti in f3
even though i think gorta has pr potential from how gghana acted today, i dont see a world in which they can win overnight, so i dont really care
tldr:
im not a wolf
iso me for reads
i will gladly dunk on both eph/gorta too
but im tryina get all my homework done today so i can give f3 my all when im not in class
eph dies today
eph flips wolf
i’ll just shit on gorta tmr
lol, I am not scum, but if you want to help flip the scum in Ephemeral then go ahead and vote
im at a crossroads
my play this game, regardless of who the villager is in chloe/eph/ghanagorta, has been bad
all three of these names have been in my townreads for pretty much the entire game
despite the fact i have 500 posts i’ve been exceedingly lazy and frankly haven’t even given this game close to what i should have
when i’m wrong on everything it makes me question the things i thought i could never be wrong on
my confidence in a chloe read has never been low, i’ve pretty much always nailed her in her openers, and her opener this game was bad
she has since rebounded into a game i’ve felt like is out of her scumrange
this does fit the pattern of her prior wolf games, where her openers have sucked and she’s rebounded to a much more acceptable game
the pattern there is noted
but i still think that this is the exception
weh
that so
then how come you were comfortable v reading hana for it? even directly agreeing with your at-the-time strong wolf read in marshal on his alignment
Thread B Vote Count
| Vote Target | Voted by | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| Ephemeral | an_gorta_pratai, Chloe | 2 |
| an_gorta_pratai | Ephemeral | 1 |
@an_gorta_pratai have you caught up to the thread? are you aware of the general situation we’re in today?
GGhana was frustrating and pushy in a way that i found to be villagery
It didnt reek of pushing agenda, and he had a thought process that I found hard to fake from a wolf, as it made sense from point A to point B
Whereas Marshal I know to be a strong wolf, and I saw his cherrypicking as bad faith
My GGhana townread was supplemented by the fact that Marl townread min in A
GGhana felt genuine
Marshal didn’t
It’s really as simple as that
And if you actually read my ISO, and didn’t look for things that fit your narrative
You’d know this