NE Pretender Rework

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#21

The Pretender

Neutral Offensive
[x] (Passive) - [x]
[x] (day ability) -
[x] (Night) -
[x] (Night) -
Goal - Be elected as King and survive until the end of the game .

Let’s decide on a balanced pretender for FoL, and then we’ll run it through Geyde.

#22

No.

#23

Shoehorning in king based neuts for the point of having king based neuts is…no

I’m fine with anti-royal as a concept.

Pretender isn’t that.

#24

Fine. I’ll make an anti royal.
Also is there a royal blood Passive in FoL?

#25

Yes there is

#26

Cool. So an anti-royal idea…
I need to know; is there a limited number of guaranteed royals to spawn in FoL? Important for goal.

#27

Only Prince is guaranteed.

#28

But would a goal like Kill all royal family members be bad? Would there be too many royals?

#29

Thanks for telling me.
I think I’ll do an evil royal who wants to kill all other royals. This good?

#30

I don’t think it’s a very good wincon. Simply having a wincon where the number of target varies wildly is going to be very difficult to balance

#31

That’s why I wanted to know if there was a royal limit.

#32

I’m more worried about a royal minimum

#33

Well, there’s a guarenteed king and prince.

#34

Wait.

#35

King isn’t royal funnily enough

#36

Alternatively we could just not have the idea of anti-royal whatsoever

I’m a bit salty when it comes to king neuts if you couldn’t tell

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#37

You suggested it.

#38

Hence why having an NE with special King interactions makes more sense.

Or a Royal with the wincon of “starting King loses” but otherwise doesn’t actually need to be crowned

#39

Anything that cares about anti-king other than exactly Insurgent always seems poor

#40

Maybe someone who just has to have the Starting King dead and have someone not royal be crowned?