Neutral Conversions

The potential for an extra kill is worth more than the guarente of an existing one.

Why does Brewer only have two uses? And thatā€™s the only ability? I mean, thatā€™s a converted Alchemist, who usually jumps on the opportunity to side with Undead/Cult already.

Heā€™s going to need to be stronger.

But Forsaken looks amazing, although Scorned should probably only be converted if they havenā€™t already won.

As for the Joker/Jester, I donā€™t think he should be punished for being lynched. But bringing back Deceive to work like Forsakenā€™s frame would be nice. (Although Framer in ToS is incredibly underrated)

Brewer has 2 uses since it kills. It does have 3 chances to be healed, but it doesnā€™t notify the target. Iā€™m not sure if it is as or more powerful than Revenge.

Scorned definitely shouldnā€™t be converted if they have one.

Iā€™m not really sure what to do with Joker.

Iā€™m not really sure what to do with Joker.

Like I said, just make them exactly like Fool, but:

  1. No penalty for lynching them.

  2. Their ability to frame themselves is replaced with an ability to make themselves look innocent.

Thatā€™s it. They keep trollbox and hide, and they now win with Unseen like any other Unseen role. This makes for a fairly powerful Unseen role, but at the cost of converting someone who was not really an enemy in the first place.

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Nightshade poisoning has nothing to do with the argument lol ā€¦ assassin can poison whether thereā€™s an enforcer or sellsword

Brewer has hidden Nightshade poisoning. I think thatā€™s much more powerful than an assassin poisoning.

I still hate ā€œbrewerā€ as a name. It absolutely sounds like a version of the Drunk - itā€™s an actual word that refers to people who brew alchohol specifically, so applying it to a converted Alchemist makes no sense.

I changed the Jokerā€™s abilities.

@Aquillion I donā€™t have a better name for Brewer, and what the hell even is a thaumaturge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumaturgy