Neutral Conversions

The potential for an extra kill is worth more than the guarente of an existing one.

Why does Brewer only have two uses? And that’s the only ability? I mean, that’s a converted Alchemist, who usually jumps on the opportunity to side with Undead/Cult already.

He’s going to need to be stronger.

But Forsaken looks amazing, although Scorned should probably only be converted if they haven’t already won.

As for the Joker/Jester, I don’t think he should be punished for being lynched. But bringing back Deceive to work like Forsaken’s frame would be nice. (Although Framer in ToS is incredibly underrated)

Brewer has 2 uses since it kills. It does have 3 chances to be healed, but it doesn’t notify the target. I’m not sure if it is as or more powerful than Revenge.

Scorned definitely shouldn’t be converted if they have one.

I’m not really sure what to do with Joker.

I’m not really sure what to do with Joker.

Like I said, just make them exactly like Fool, but:

  1. No penalty for lynching them.

  2. Their ability to frame themselves is replaced with an ability to make themselves look innocent.

That’s it. They keep trollbox and hide, and they now win with Unseen like any other Unseen role. This makes for a fairly powerful Unseen role, but at the cost of converting someone who was not really an enemy in the first place.

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Nightshade poisoning has nothing to do with the argument lol … assassin can poison whether there’s an enforcer or sellsword

Brewer has hidden Nightshade poisoning. I think that’s much more powerful than an assassin poisoning.

I still hate ā€œbrewerā€ as a name. It absolutely sounds like a version of the Drunk - it’s an actual word that refers to people who brew alchohol specifically, so applying it to a converted Alchemist makes no sense.

I changed the Joker’s abilities.

@Aquillion I don’t have a better name for Brewer, and what the hell even is a thaumaturge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumaturgy