Old sorc was terrible for the game
Your point doesn’t make sense because you have to argue something that wouldn’t happen for it to be proven
A butler with NK wincon wouldn’t achieve the function of an NK. Thus an actual NK would still need to spawn.
And yes having the number of neutrals with a large amount of kill power being variable causes problems. Hence why the game was extremely swinging back when there could be 2 or 0 NK’s.
Inquisitor is already pushing it.
Prince should be BD Killer as he has the ability to kill without a limit on his target. He has the ability to kill anyone in game, whereas Butler is limited to King ect.
This is why I believe Knight is a killer and not support as well.
I’m in support of Prince being either BD Special or BD Killer. No offensive though.
By this logic, anyone with a general killing ability should be a Killer.
Inquisitor
Alchemist
Pretender (Via Redirect)
Etc
Prince needed to be a Killer in Allies meta for balance reasons.
At this point changing him to Offensive would really only affect Duchess and Seeker results.
When the King had the Allies ability, which allowed him to find the exact class type of a target, it made sense for the Prince to be Killer over Offensive so as to make there be more risk to just blindly outing a Killer finding. (It was still optimal, but.)
Inqs intended purpose is to investigate people and then stab them, although a lot of Inquisitors play Inq like a mini NK nowadays. The class is designed around being an investigative class with the power to kill their 3 heathens, though. I think Inqs design doesn’t work very well at the moment, but he still falls under Investigative by design.
I think Alch is in a weird spot bring back JOAT alch but still fits Support much better than Killer - especially when every Neutral ‘Killer’ class is… designed only to kill. Alchemist has heals, which are objectively support, and two bombs which I think are there to speed up the game for your own wincon. But you know, yolobombing alchs exist. Still, having two kills with your infinite use ability being heal doesn’t mean you’re a Killer class, just look at Chrono.
No comment.
Prince is a BD killer because Prince has the ability to kill anybody (minus the king reee). Sure, Jail/noexe is inherently the most offensive ability in the game, but every BD killer has the ability to bypass death immunity and the only “killer” classes that can’t bypass DI are Assassin (bleed can, technically) and Possessor.
If Allies/Princess was never a thing I’d say Prince belongs to Special more than anything.
A possessor, through a long string of actions, can cause the knight to kill the king.
Hm?
So like… debbing a CW into the king, having them swap someone with the king, and have the Possessor string the king into somebody?
That’s such a ridiculously specific occurrence I almost don’t think it counts. But sure, Knight can kill the King if the stars align and you cross your fingers.
With that logic, Hunter could too.
But in any normal circumstances, none of the BD killers can kill king.