NFoL5 (5/16) - Endgame - BD, Merc, and Strigoi win!

[Marluxion]

@Napoleon

like if im wolf what is the worst i can do?

out the information discussed in allies chat such as night actions to the other cultists

[Marluxion]

@PokemonKidRyan

Because then 2 newbies thinking that having a cult king is great at the start makes more sense.

Marshal was the one pushing for yellow to be king
Marshal was cult
Marshal is NOT new

[PokemonKidRyan]

Marshal was N1 convert. (Imo)

Marshal pushed Yellow simply to stop an experienced person being King.

This doesn’t exonerate Yellow. Because Marshal wanted the newbies to be able to do things.

If Yellow in cult chat had stated they wanted to be King. I do not think she would have stopped them unlike many others of us who might’ve talked Yellow down

[WindwardAway]

@Marluxion

Need to confirm whether cult can perform their night actions alongside their factional kill

Yeah that’s why I voted napoleon first yesterDay… Cause I thought they couldn’t, but they can and I changed my vote to Marshal.

@Marluxion

also yeet yellow and make me king and i’ll just add you and windward
problem completely solved

Lmao

Honestly I don’t care whether I’m in Allies or not, so I’ll leave it up to Yellow or wherever the discussion goes. I’m a roleblocker and it doesn’t exactly benefit the king or prince having me in the allies chat. It’s actually worse if I end up in allies with a cult member and they figure out who I’m roleblocking, so I think the rest of you can sort out amongst yourselves who you want in Allies.

Also, there’s no way Yellow performed the factional kill if Marshal got beared by Marl so I don’t really get where that discussion is going?

@Marluxion

@Yellow

You mean Marshal pushing me? I don’t know exactly, but at least she gained my trust in the process and I did try to save her. But I’m not sure exactly, she couldn’t have guessed that I’d guard her last night.

save her from what, exactly?

Yeah I was wondering the same. I think I know what she meant, but I’ll let her answer first so I don’t put words into her mouth.

@Marluxion

@katze

Oogway

dying to bleed either way
windy can rb him

Ok so no point in voting him lol

@Marluxion

anybody else notice how pkr just doesn’t show up until his name is brought up

Yup
I’m not really convinced he was starting cult but he’d be a good convert target for sure

@Marluxion

the OE on appel plus guarding the only flipped cultist is just mechanically too suspicious to ever truly take you out of the PoE

I don’t think the OE on Appel was that bad, but I’m biased because I decided to just push her as soon as I subbed in lol. There was resistance to forming a wagon on her instead of Aelin and it looked very suspicious to me, so from any point of view I wouldn’t blame someone essentially vigging her slot to resolve it. It just happened to work out very well for the cult since Appel was actually town.

@Marluxion

unless n3 convert failed on eli but i doubt that at this point

I strongly suspect Eli of being a sellsword tbh
Meaning if he did get targeted with conversion he’d be added to the wolf chat.

@Marluxion

once oogway flips on d6 it’ll be confirmed i wasn’t converted

Not if cult decides to be funny and kill Oogway instead of letting him bleed out lol.

@Marluxion

also, both you and min have nothing mechanically going for them

I actually think min softed phys a while ago but that’s just my opinion lol

@Marluxion

the ‘marl might get converted’ problem gets solved completely if we yeet yellow fwiw

No it doesn’t, unless you trust that people would actually protect you.
I really think Yellow is still a BD king, though. The only thing I’m concerned about is whether she picks the right players to trust, considering what happened with Marshal.

@Marluxion

if he is somehow a strigol it means eli is like lock NE

Yeah basically this was my thought
If ATN is the NE, then Eli is probably cult and ATN is Sellsword tbh

@PokemonKidRyan

Yellow’s the only one I mildly disagree with. I think they’re cult. Especially if Blue is cult.
Because then 2 newbies thinking that having a cult king is great at the start makes more sense.
1 newbie and 1 experienced person might decide not to, so they can bolster ranks to be safe at start.

Uh but I really think Marshal was starting cult, idk
Maybe i should read back through D1 but I’m not sure how much that helps

@PokemonKidRyan

Someone has a N1 result on Panda being BD.
I mean, I thought that one of the targets of Aelin was starting evil… so I’m going with my “hail Mary” guess.

Also this is kinda weird reasoning. Why did you think one of Aelin’s targets was starting evil but didn’t know which one, if it isn’t guaranteed at all that there’s a starting evil in the merc’s targets?

@PokemonKidRyan

I feel like 2 people who are new to the game of FoL but not necessarily to ToL… would think of the power of the King. Instead of being more careful which I think 1 experienced and 1 inexperienced FoL’er would do, since here I think we have more convert prevention? Which would make the CL be alone and have to do things by themselves.

I actually think the opposite. In ToL the cult king doesn’t retain their abilities once kinged, so I wouldn’t assume that newbies would realize that. I think if the CL is a newbie who has played ToL, they wouldn’t want to king the CL, but rather the other cultist, because they’d likely overlook the ability to convert while king.

[PokemonKidRyan]

@WindwardAway

I think if the CL is a newbie who has played ToL, they wouldn’t want to king the CL, but rather the other cultist, because they’d likely overlook the ability to convert while king.

I never stated Yellow is Cult Leader.

[WindwardAway]

@Marluxion

@PokemonKidRyan

Because then 2 newbies thinking that having a cult king is great at the start makes more sense.

Marshal was the one pushing for yellow to be king
Marshal was cult
Marshal is NOT new

Also, this ^

Marshal I’m pretty sure was starting cult and not a convert.

I think what happened is that the starting cult thought it would be a good idea to push a newbie BD for king because they’d be easier to manipulate, and also take the fall for any bad actions with guarding and OEing.

[WindwardAway]

Yes but if Marshal was starting ritualist, which I believe, there’s absolutely no way Yellow was CL imo

[WindwardAway]

/vote EliThePsycho

@Chloe @Arete @DatBird

[WindwardAway]

I just think it’s weird that Oogway claimed to protect Eli, Napoleon claimed to protect Eli, and then Eli claims to have partied to protect himself. Does that not strike anyone else as weird?

[Marluxion]

@PokemonKidRyan

Marshal was N1 convert. (Imo)

Marshal pushed Yellow simply to stop an experienced person being King.

This doesn’t exonerate Yellow. Because Marshal wanted the newbies to be able to do things.

If Yellow in cult chat had stated they wanted to be King. I do not think she would have stopped them unlike many others of us who might’ve talked Yellow down

The push for king happened D2. Even if marshal was the n1 convert she was definitely part of the plan to make yellow king.

Also why, in your opinion, was marshal the n1 convert and not starting cult?

[WindwardAway]

Why is there so much focus on protecting Eli if nobody was focused on even asking for his claim up till now?

[Marluxion]

Operation; Saving Cultist Eli

[Marluxion]

@WindwardAway

ATN is Sellsword tbh

or Fool

[WindwardAway]

Yes but I was thinking specifically because of the unaccounted roleblock on Appel that Eli has claimed

Although I guess Appel could’ve hit Aelin’s target

[WindwardAway]

Anyway I personally think Eli is a safe yeet
Worst case he flips butler but I’m also a butler so we don’t lose too much
And I saved my concentrated wine so I can still party.

[WindwardAway]

I think if we actually have two butlers, cult would really want one of them dead or converted, but seeing as neither Eli nor I are dead, and Eli took until toDay to even claim butler while I’ve been outed since pandagod claimed on D2, it’s a bit weird.

[WindwardAway]

PKR isn’t starting cult with Marshal I’m pretty sure btw
Still think he might be converted but he ain’t the CL

[WindwardAway]

@BlueLance which actions have you taken?

[Marluxion]

Eli’s claim to have partied n3 makes absolutely no sense because a) it’s convert night and b) cult were winning

[Marluxion]

it wasn’t until marshal flipped today that the tide started turning for BD