I’ll give you my reason why I wined napoleon but it basically gave me a PoE of either Napoleon or Oogway and I had wined Oogway before already and thought he died anyway last night
N1 - serve wine to ATNoName
N2 - serve wine to Appelsiini
N3 - serve wine to Katze
N4 - serve wine to Oogway
N5 - serve wine to Napoleon
Compare Nap’s actions to Oogway’s. He used dream shield on a convert night.
Claims:
Oogway - Mystic, N1 mm Eli, N2 ds katze, N3 mm Wind
Napoleon - Mystic, N1 mm Marl, N2 mm Eli, N3 ds min, N4 mm Marl
min - Phys, N1 heal Marshal, N2 heal Wind, D3 exhume Grey, N3 ??, N4 heal katze
PKR - Court Lizard, D1 CM, N1 LL Marl, N2 LL Nap, N3 LL Marshal
Marl - hunter, N2 bear, D4 wolf Oogway
ATNoName - Strigoi, N1 bite min, N2 bite Nap, N3 bite Yellow (but then he voted Yellow out?)
Eli - N1 sw Appel, N2 sw min, N3 party, N4 sw PKR
Silviu - Paladin, N1 Nap is NS (Nap only CL if tailored)
Yellow - Devout King, D2 allies Nap/Marshal, N2 OE Appel, N3 guard Marshal, D4 dark god’s power
BlueLance - Chrono, N1 TW Marshal, D2 PD, N2 TW Oogway, N3 TW min
Katze - Prince, N1 check pandagod, N2 behead Grey, N3 imprison Eli, N4 behead Nap
so this was in my logs last night
now that we know Oogway was CL, that resolves the Oogway/Nap conflict with the dream shield. But I think Napoleon would’ve been a convert target afterward so unless he gives me a good reason not to vote him out, I think voting him out ends the game if we can trust Eli.
uh sorry for the lack of clarification there but the first thing I put in the previous post is my night actions lol
that might’ve been a bit unclear
ATN said he bit me last night, yeah? so it wouldn’t have prevented me from doing anything because as a butler I’m occ immune, and even if I were an invoker I’d also be occ immune
I’m really not that sure ATN is a strigoi but ehhh
I do agree ftr that it’s either PKR or Napoleon but i want both of them to claim their actions. I already outed my RB so i guess it doesn’t really matter in Nap’s case, sorry about that
in terms of NE I think it’s between ATN/Eli tbh
if we yeet someone today who isn’t me and isn’t the CL, Eli can wine me tonight if you need proof that I’m not CL. CL wouldn’t keep their occ immunity but wining me would have no effect if I’m a butler/invoker, and it’s impossible for me to be invoker now without directly becoming CL. I currently prefer that we yeet between Napoleon and PKR toDay, and Eli and I can just target each other with wine toNight to ensure that at least one of us is telling the truth.
also I’m sorry I wasn’t around at all yesterDay because the thread opened when I was watching Eurovision (lol) and you quickhammered while I was still watching xD as soon as I saw the NK I knew Yellow had to be cult king and Marl was right the whole time, so I just tried to work within the PoE. I wasn’t sure whether to assume Eli was butler or not, but I ISO’d him overnight and reached the conclusion that he was unlikely to be the CL because of his earlier posts, and that he could only have been converted later or be the NE. So I didn’t block him, and decided I should pick between PKR/Napoleon/Oogway.
My reasoning on not RBing Oogway was dumb and flawed but I was just banking on solving somewhat correctly and assuming that since Oogway was going to die anyway, either he’d take someone down with him (as mystic) or he’d just bleed out anyway (as CL). I thought in the chance he was mystic, I shouldn’t RB him so he could babysit and kill a PoE slot.
So that left me with Napoleon, who also claimed mystic but was also never dying at night, and PKR, who was supposed to make someone convert immune so RBing him didn’t seem like the smartest idea in case he chose the right target and I chose wrong. What I didn’t think about is that the quickhammer was so fast that he probably didn’t use Clear Mind in the first place so all he would’ve done was use ley lines on someone.
That only left me with Napoleon, who wouldn’t use a dream shield because it wasn’t a kill night. But what I thought was weird was the part I mentioned above, that Oogway claimed to use dream shield on N2 (presumably a kill night) while Napoleon used dream shield on N3 (presumably a conversion night). While I don’t think there was anything wrong in using mindmeld on a kill night as Napoleon did, I thought wasting a dream shield on a night that was almost definitely a conversion night, given that Napoleon knew it would be a conversion night because he was targeted the night before by the ritualist, was a questionable choice of action. So that’s why I decided to block him (and no, not just because Marl accused him).
In short - I thought Napoleon was very likely the N3 convert and not the CL, I needed to block the CL, but I was more certain that Napoleon was some sort of cult that was roleblockable whereas RBing PKR/Oogway if wrong would possibly cost BD because their actions, if BD, were more useful. RBing Eli, if he’s BD, would’ve simply been a waste of my night action.
don’t townread me for wallposting btw
it’s just that I had all my notes and logs organized overnight and felt like an idiot for missing the entirety of D5 so I wanted to give an explanation here. I don’t really care if you think I’m a convert or not but I want you to think over my reasoning, think over the PoE, and figure out who’s the last cultist.
Mindmelded Windward last night
I will explain my night action in a bit more detail later I’m a bit busy right now (I thought Marl was a wolf until Oogway’s flip)
I did this because I was Ritualist blocked so if Cult somehow missed their convert then I would likely be the target.
Marl is a fine King candidate only possibly convert if Eli is lying (which I think is very possible)
Alternative was to mindmeld someone… when I was Rit blocked and if it was a kill night I was the most likely target
Anyways I gotta head out
I dont have time to work out the King candidate though
I Ley Lines’d Min just as they asked.
At this point I’m wanting to scream at you.
Since I also said this much earlier.
I’m also not going to say my N4 action.
Because I feel like an idiot for getting paranoia on the situation in game.
Ok…
Well.
I guess I shouldn’t just be silent (although I wish I was)
I’m the cause of Katze’s N4 death.
My actions have been:
D1: Clear Mind
N1: Ley Lines Marl (Marl will be immune to convert, redirection and roleblock)
N2: Ley Lines Napoleon
N3: Ley Lines Marshal (She’s used her abilities so should change class. So I’ll let her do so)
D4: Icy Veins
N4: Ley Lines Oogway
N5: Ley Lines Min
At the start of N4 (The reason I trusted Oogway), I had a really paranoid PKR reads list moment…
Reads: Tinfoil of Marshal, Eli, Wind team.
I also chose to protect Oogway because I hoped cult would think I was on Prince.
Also it was supposed to be Marl. Not Marshal. Lol.
So I typo’d my reads.
At least my typo kinda makes them better than they were otherwise?
I’m saying I’m a fucking idiot who got paranoid during D4/N4 on Marl.
Then tinfoiled a team.
Then protected the cult leader after this read paranoia because I thought cult might think I would Icy Veins the Prince.