Nier+Drakengard Forum Mafia (Town Victory - This Silence is Mine: 7/29)

[Hippolytus]

I already townread her tbf. Her killing the cop is NAI.

[Emilia]

Worst thing is that she can get away with daykilling aligment cop as maf

[astand]

With Blue’s information, if we believe him, it becomes more than NAI.

[MathBlade]

They can either buff Margaret or make another essentially IC and out Magnus as scum. (Yes I am operating on the assumption Magnus is scum.)

It’s a double edged sword for scum and I think they take the buff Margaret option.

[MathBlade]

Why? I have done it before. It’s quite fun actually putting scum in a clusterfuck.

[Emilia]

If marg is wolf she won’t out whether Magnus gave her intoner or no

[astand]

It’s a good way to put town in a clusterfuck.

[MathBlade]

And if she doesn’t she outs herself as wolf so we get a wolf?

[Emilia]

No because we won’t know whether Magnus did that or no

[MathBlade]

Margaret would be the wolf in that case lol.

[astand]

We don’t even know if Magnus is mafia. Math talks like it’s the guaranteed truth.

[Hippolytus]

If we are confident Magnus is Mafia it is definitely better not letting them see the night.

[Emilia]

Exactly but we will never know if that’s the case

[Hippolytus]

Having said that I kinda forgot why we are so confident they’re mafia. But anyone saying they are mafia and that we shouldn’t hang them is sus to me (or kinda bad?).

[MathBlade]

Failing to see the issue here:

No matter what we get a wolf. It acts as a dual check.

It checks my gut on Magnus and it checks Margaret. Win win.

[Emilia]

If Magnus is wolf it gives no info on marg because we won’t know if he did use his ability or no

[Hippolytus]

It doesn’t really matter if it gives no info on Marg tho?

[Mercenary]

@Icibalus

but you’ve been reading a single post as me simultaneously shadethrowing and having a polarising perspective.

Yes. And?

@Icibalus

I’m like 90% certain the wolves have KP that only works on people who have claimed whether they’re an Intoner or a Disciple.

This guess is very fucking strange.

@Icibalus

I’d rather the wovles not know about the way our Disciple/Intoner pairs go if Magnus/Celeste is v/v.

Do you really think that it has such a large possibility for it to happen?
If they want to know something about the pairings, it is very likely that they can either ask the mod about it or that there is just a W/V pairing between themselves.

@Icibalus

Somehow the equivocation in this post makes me think Magnus is village, and I have no idea why.
I think it’s just gut.

I think that this post is very bad because the post they were originally referring to was worse.
The “equivocation” can also be the wolves commenting on their chat to push Datbird, if Magnus was mafia and Datbird was not (which I find to be likely, even though I haven’t read dat yet).

@Icibalus

although whether they’re just the misplaced intentions of a villager or the actions of a wolf remains to be seen.

This is the opposite of the senseless polarizing, it is trying to remain neutral not to end up looking as if they accused Datbird.
Actually the more I read those posts, I think that Dat is town just because of how scummy are the people wagoning him. I’ll try to see who jumps constantly from the Dat-me wagons in a moment.
Maybe the Wazza flashwagon as well. I don’t trust Wazza, but those were such fast votes that it is absurd.
Until now I was mainly trying to justify my gutreads (Margaret, Geyde, Ici), but now I see that this one has really the potential to be something and I’m convincing myself more that Ici is a wolf.
I don’t think that Marg’s shot was related to Geyde seeing logic on my Ici push, however.

@Icibalus

Now, I know I’ve talked about villagery fluff before in regards to Zone, but this is different. The facts are always relevant but are never used for anything.

I think that it’s important to ask them if they can somehow make a piece of information out of it all first.
Anyway, this push seems much more natural than his first one.

@Icibalus

I can feel a sort of sneer in Merc’s posts that I can’t see in VCFM. I think that “sneer” is a result of them knowing everybody’s allignments, and feeling somewhat smug. If that’s creeping into their posts, I have a feeling that at least one of the biggest wagons is wrong here.

Somehow my posts can read the entire votes from all players.
This just seems so faked.

@Icibalus

I’m not quite certain yet, but I’m most certainly certain enough to certainly plant my certain vote on them, certainly :^)

Wasn’t you super hesitant to go on Dat before even if you had 50+ posts about him?

@Icibalus

Blue’s probably right in saying that was a claimvig kill. I’m guessing it probably happened because the claimvig didn’t have any other actual targets, since Sweety is hardly a high-skill player.

I agree with this point.

@Icibalus

The fact Sweety was their only option probably means they need to know the exact ability of somebody in order to claimvig them.

No? They were revealed both in flavor and in type (Android) as well?
I dislike this bolding on ability. It seems like they are trying to push people’s opinions on that specific way.

@Icibalus

fossil wagon

thanks I’ll use that term now

@Icibalus

Statistics says that there’s at least one player who would try to coach Magnus on the team right now simply based on the playerlist.

Maybe he simply started posting without going to scumchat first.
Find this unlikely however
I would have to read Magnus to opine here.

[Hippolytus]

I swear every D1 on this site revolves around celeste somehow.

[MathBlade]

If Magnus is wolf and Margaret town he won’t buff Margaret in which case Margaret town says “no buff” we lynch Magnus and get a conf Wolf.

If Magnus is wolf and Margaret is wolf then Magnus buffs/doesn’t buff Margaret Margaret says he did and then we know of the link.

If Magnus is town Magaret wolf then Magnus buffs Margaret and Margaret has to confirm the buff. Same with Margaret town.

If Magnus is town and doesn’t buff it’s Gamethrowing.

Mainly Margaret is forced to tell the truth there.