Ninjas and Guns - Overwatch Flavor - [3/17] - Day 7: Mafia Wins (winky face) (it's not a joke)

[clonedcheese]

…what kind of fake claim clears a dead man

[ATNoName]

don’t know wtf happened with Wind and her play. I’m just gonna assume it just didn’t work as intended.

/vote NetherNitro

[PokemonKidRyan]

It didn’t.
Wind tried baiting then kinda snapped and revealed it because of cloned.

However, eevee, Marl, Marshal and likely the PRs for town did pick up on it.
Based on what Wind said.

[ATNoName]

I don’t know, it doesn’t remotely look like a PR bait to me.

[sulit]

(what if we just didn’t talk about PRs)

[ATNoName]

you will never see a FoL game without some PR talk (unless it mountainous).

[Esooa]

CAT MOON

CAT MOON,.

I CAN’T RFUCKIGN POST THIS BECAUSE UNCLEAR BODY FUCK YUOU FOL FUCKKKKKKKKKKK YOU I STILL CAN’T FUCKIGN POST IT WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM EME

WHAT THE HELL? i STILL CAN’T? dO YOU NEED SOME PUNCTUACTION, BITCH?

[sulit]

if u want to post stuff if it says that then u can put

<filler>

[sulit]

wait no

i lost

my wallpost
bceause i copy paste

wait no clipboard
yay

[Esooa]

I’m too drunk to read these posts. I might be up before EoD depending on extension but I’m not sure. Don’t kill ATN, Wind, Aelin. I don’t remember if there’s someone else up for vote. The other PoE people are fine iirc??? so yeah.

[sulit]

@Esooa

Aelin

?

[Esooa]

I literally have said it twice. This isn’t snapchat bruh. I’m too exhausted to say more

[PokemonKidRyan]

Man I’m going to kill eevee.
Literally just placing a vote on me and then fucking off day 1 end and literally the whole of today

[Wazza]

You get a like for the sheer amount of content, holy shit calm down.

'm also not going to read this but yeah.

@DkKoba

do you scumread me for it?

no

@WindwardAway

I think Nether/Uni/Wazza/Intensify/Marshal contains at least one wolf in it, I’m not sure why I think that, and I don’t really care to elaborate.

You see, when you pick 5 players, in a game with 17 people and 4 evils, you have an extremely high chance to put a wolf in it no matter what, especially when 2 of the 17 people are dead and you’d know your own role, making it 5/14. You know 4 of us are scum which makes it 29% of us are scum currently, boom, destroyed by facts and logic

I’m mostly joking here, but I feel like Nether is mafia atm.

[PokemonKidRyan]

Can I ask what everyone else thinks about eevee?

I know I’m biased and I don’t want to push them just due to activity but the lack of reasoning at all really concerns me.

I just wish someone else was in the slot rn >.>

[Esooa]

scummy. Haven’t liked any of their arguments and they gave way too much of a fuck about me day 1 while ignoring actually talking about the thread

[Intensify]

@PokemonKidRyan

I’m still screaming at the fact I’m still a proper wagon >.>

@Aelin

I’m meh on it
I think you’re out of your wolfrange, but not by a crazy amount
For me I’m clearing you because of a few certain posts where I go “wolves don’t think like this”

What posts from PKR are “wolves don’t think like this.”

@Aelin

Anyway
I think there’s at least one wolf between Intensify/ATNoName
Possibly both, although I’m currently TR’ing AT

@Aelin

Reason being that the interaction from before jumped out of nowhere and did nothing, and reading it makes it feel like “no I don’t want to interact with you” but I’m not sure where exactly

What interaction.

If you’re referring to this:

@Intensify

Also no AtE or i bonk you

@ATNoName

but you can only bonk hornys

@Intensify

Hornys escape jail.

We need other people in jail because lolcorruptjailsystem

@ATNoName

but you still can’t bonk non-hornys

If you’re referring to this, then you’re literally just trying to find reasons to read me as scum out of thin air.

@DkKoba

the wagons should be between marshall and intensify today

Still hasn’t explained why they’re scumreading me or anyone else for the matter

@Aelin

@WindwardAway

It’s also stupid because it doesn’t look like anyone answered, unless the forum just skipped a chunk of posts on me?

Don’t feel like a great amount of anger in this or any attempt to show a great amount of anger
just
mild annoyance, but it feels genuine

And does this make you read Wind more as town?

@Aelin

its how i played whatever card misc that we played where we made champions
control the narrative and then go “and this is why im right”
i dont do that in games because i think its really fucking stupid

That is quite simply, inc-

@Aelin

@WindwardAway

Tbh I still think Intensify is town

I can’t give you detailed reasons for it, sorry
It’s a lot of very small things that I think equate to being towny

this comes from town more often than scum i feel
but this is like, the first time she’s explicitly stated a read which also makes me want to headdesk
youre doing towny scummy things and scummy towny things, wind
why why why
w h y

Mmmmm.

Aelin’s reasons for scumreading me are:

• Lol I think ur thoughts and opinions on others are pre planned.

When asked to further explain, she says that’s it and “I’m too lazy to ISO you”.

Apparently I’m top scum for her

And I’m gonna ask

whywhywhy

w h y

@Aelin

@WindwardAway

I also don’t know if she would’ve staked her own life on a D1 easy ML unless she’s exactly a goon.

i enjoy living far too much for that tbh tbh
its why i bussed wiisp in franxx - chloe pointed out that we werent pushing on each other hard enough, and i was semi-PoE, so I went “fuck this” and thunderdomed him
we all know how that turned out
if im a wolf, this play simply Does Not Make Sense™
if im a wolf I:

• get a kill on a low activity player who isnt great at reading anyway
• become perpetual PoE
• provide spew on my scummates when i flip
• cant be bussed for towncred because of my PoE status

it just doesnt make sense for me to do this whatsoever
it doesnt make sense as town either but im gonna have to ask you to shutthefuckupaboutthat

1. Eli was a free mislynch for any scum, him not being great at reading doesn’t matter.
2. Aelin you were literally the counter wagon along with Wazza to Eli : /
3. Idk why Aelin thinks scum can’t distance or provide anti-spew
4. Why does this matter. Not every wolf has to be bussed, even on FOL

Bad arguments for “why wolf me wouldn’t do this”.

@Aelin

TL;DR - first off, fuck you, read it
i didnt spend two hours on this for it to get ignored
Wind is a townlean, if i ever go back and read franxx i could probably come closer to a more certain read in either direction
theres a lot she does thats towny, and a lot that she does thats scummy
Overall, the towny bits are more prominent, and theres a few certain pieces that I don’t think wolves really ever think about, and i dont think any of the scummy bits are especially damning
this should definitely be re-evaluated late-game depending on how her tone changes, if it does
but overall her approach is cognitively consistent and most of her thoughts line up
@WindwardAway please read through, i had questions in a few places and would appreciate your answers

This is a fine conclusion I guess.

To some extent, yeah I guess.

@Aelin

I was originally going to ISO everyone
But then I decided not to
Because fuck that

Yeahhhh… ISOing Wind usually kills your WiM fair enough

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@Aelin

@WindwardAway

Anyone care to explain why there are two completely opposite interpretations of comparing that game to this one? I mean yeah, of course it’s a different game and the context probably makes a huge difference, but what exactly are you guys seeing?
[/quote]

what do YOU think about it
now that Marl has flipped town
do you think Esooa/sulit were reading in bad faith? Which interpretation do you think is more correct? I didn’t read that Katastrophe or follow it so shrug

Esooa subbed in after I died, so her understanding of my posts might’ve been a bit different than Marl’s or sulit’s, who played with me. Sulit only lockwolfed me off of my first post in Sonic and then decided my second post was also wolfy enough that she began tunnelling me for the entire day. I don’t think it was optimal but I guess that’s why I’m not surprised she quickly jumped to a conclusion on my posts here, too. I wasn’t trying to discredit her but point out the flaw in jumping to conclusions too fast, and it came across as a complete discredit and I’m aware of that (not that it hasn’t already been pointed out). Marl is correct in that I was doing the exact same thing here, but I’ve been doing it for a different reason and honestly it’s getting tiring being pushed to give reads and solve the game when I just want to relax because I have more stressful things to do irl. I’m not very competitive in forum mafia and I don’t intend to be. I’m not striving to rep the forum for champs or anything; I’m just having fun in my free time. I partly did the “I don’t need to be townread” gambit in Sonic Heghog because of these reasons, but also because I was a PR (town poisoner) and covering my ass so I wouldn’t get nightkilled, which failed miserably because I got nightkilled N1 lol. Here? I’m just fucking with people and I’m annoyed that everyone expects so much from me when I am literally adjusting my playstyle to the game and so that I can produce the most accurate reads I possibly can. I don’t think jumping at people on D1 in this game would’ve produced highly accurate reads; I fucked up on voting Eli and I admit that. I didn’t even have strong reasons to scumread him; I just sheeped you because I figured you’re better at reading him than I am, but it’s still my fault for placing my vote there and I take responsibility for it.

Big post, my eyes hurt.

Also why is Wind acting like voting Eli was the end of the world.

@WindwardAway

if you want me to spew my entire play so you can yeet me, fine.
I’ve been trying to play similarly to Sonic Heghog so that someone would pick up on it (and Marl and Marshal did) because I wanted to see if anyone thought I was a PR. Eevee picked up on it as well, despite not being in the Sonic game. I wanted to see if I’d bait a night kill but apparently the scumteam did NOT pick up on my fake soft or else saw right through it.

I am vanilla town and I don’t particularly care if I die. I’ve been playing cautiously this game to try to bait, but since you can’t fucking see past the absolute surface level there’s no point in continuing this.

Ok then…

Uhh…

You ok there… you need a hug?

@PokemonKidRyan

Can I ask what everyone else thinks about eevee?

I know I’m biased and I don’t want to push them just due to activity but the lack of reasoning at all really concerns me.

I just wish someone else was in the slot rn >.>

No read on them currently.

They’re just doing Eevee stuff and quite frankly, I don’t even know how to even read them. They’re like the most random person I have ever seen.

[Intensify]

TLDR; I catch up.

I hate multiquoting on mobile.

Mobile sucks and I probably missed 20 posts.

Also I’m getting DGADTFM ptsd from being read as scum for no reason.

Like from what I’ve seen so far.

There’s 3 people who are reading me as scum.

• Koba
• Aelin
• NoName

Guess what?

Koba - Has not explained the read and refuses to answer any of my questions
Aelin - Scum read on me is for one sole reason that hasn’t been fleshed out and Aelin refuses to go further into it or think about it for long
NoName - No explanation either, but has not been asked to go further so my fault there.

[ATNoName]

@Intensify

NoName

when did I scumread you?

[Intensify]

Like at the beginning I think?

I remember you thinking I was scum.

Hold on give me a sec to go find it.