Observer change

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#21

Well yeah that’s why it’s limited.

#22

Not my point

#23

Then what IS your point? Being able to have limited use of a strong ability is par for the course in this game.

#24

3 uses is a lot though. That’s the majority of actual influential nights for investigatives until the game becomes mostly obvious.

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#25

I’m ok with making it 2

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#26

I figured making it less drastic of a nerf by making it 3 would make it easier to implement.

More importantly it shows that something like this CAN be nerfed incrementally.

#27

I think it’s a no brainer that ToL Observer should be nerfed though. They are by far the best investigative imo. This one could work and using Princess wisp works with the visiting theme which I like.

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#28

Exactly!

It buffs princess and nerfs observer but still keeps him strong, just not quite AS strong.

#29

Added something to clarify MM/Frame/Tailor interactions with Witness. Since Wisp isn’t effected but I want witness to be.

#30

Yeah, we did a similar thing in FoL, but we took some more power :upside_down_face:

I love the name of the ability too which is always a big thing to me, keeping it thematic and sounding nicely.

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#31

Thanks!

But yea, the FoL version is perfectly fine for FoL. But it was already attempted in ToL and needed to be reworked.

Whatever the reason for that was. I see no reason for it to be any better now than it was before, especially since day ability’s aren’t as important and people rarely ever no-visit. Better to make something new than to try and push for something that already needed to be fixed.

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#32

btw another reason to use follow instead of stalk for the base is because stalk is more reliable for confirmation, meaning that having it be the limited one makes for easier fake claiming. Sure you can obviously get unlucky but it’s far less likely to get you caught than having to know someones visit every night, since guessing is more effective this way (still unreliable but every bit can help).

#33

Interesting idea. What does Witness do if the attack/convert was failed?

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#34

It still returns positive, so long as there was an attempt unless they were occupied.

#35

So if you use stalk+witness, you know who the convert is… possibly. Since it isn’t guaranteed, it’s balanced. I love this idea!

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#36

Well this is better than the current Observer imo

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#37
  • This is better than the current observer.
  • This is worst than the current observer, current observer needs no change, the current observer needs a change but this isn’t a good change.

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Official.

#38

Fix your poll so it actually lists out the options properly

#39

It is fixed.
First option for this is good, second option for, whatever reason, you don’t think this should replace the current observer.

#40

i dont like witness, too hard to defend yourself against that

whereas there are plenty of legitimate reasons to have visited a player the night they died

just split follow into 2 abilities and remove peek pls

And I didn’t want to just suggest to revert it to a version that had already needed to be reworked in the first place.

pretty sure it didnt need to be reworoked and not sure why it was

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