Official Noble Rework

[Livicus]

I agree, maybe we should take Private Matter back from the Mystic and bring it to Noble

[Htm]

And maybe then we could also give mystic a new day ability

[NuclearBurrito]

Like what?

[Htm]

I don’t really know

I’m just putting that out there for people who are creative with day abilities tbh

[Livicus]

Mystic doesn’t need another day ability though

[Livicus]

And Private Matter would work better on Noble because now he can see all whispers and can see information that happened last night, so he can coordinate and stuff

[CheesyKnives]

Like

Mindblow (Day) Tell someone that they’re Bill nye , and convert them into a Physician.

[Htm]

lmao

[Twil1ight]

How about actually just put Conduct to day abillities? That would make some interesting interactions like actual cooporetation between for example: Confirmed Princess and Prince while discussing about her results and who is might be a scum. Also it would be more effective since The Prince wouldnt needed to keep focus on guy who is in jail right now.

[Icibalus]

Noble Twin is rarely useful but I like Private Matter on Mystic if it HAD A NAME THAT MATCHED MYSTIC REEEE

I’ll think of another idea for it some time soon.

[Sam17z]

@Ellie

Maid Spy will now spy on everyone in the castle, but will have limited uses.

Since this is pretty mindless and needs no skill to target anyone what so ever, I think you should make this a day ability. Add some more uses to Political Preassure as Nuclear said. Add another cool night ability with a limit on uses. And then you have a fun noble class.

[Htm]

@Sam17z

Since this is pretty mindless and needs no skill to target anyone what so ever, I think you should make this a day ability

I would also kind of like this to be a day ability. I’ve always wanted maid spy to be a day ability but I would like private matter more

[RHCube]

@Ellie

Day abilities would remain the same.

New Night Ability with some cool name - You will receive the feedback of any ability used on your target tonight.

So if the Sheriff investigates an Unseen member you will see “Target is a member of the Unseen!” You won’t know who the Sheriff is.

That’s too investigative. I do like the idea though. Maybe it could be a wisp rework? Here’s an idea to replace it:

Transcript(2 uses)- reveal all previous whispers to and from your target. Can target anyone(even the dead)

@Ellie

Maid Spy will now spy on everyone in the castle, but will have limited uses.

That’s too confirmable, and doesn’t take any skill. It also makes it impossible for possessor to fakeclaim noble, and NKs have a hard enough time as is. Just change maid spy so it works like the current one, but remains on its target until you change targets.

@Ellie

Aristocrat would be changed to match Noble. Apostle would get one of the abilities and could spawn with the CL.

Just change aristocrat’s maid spy into a new passive(the same would happen for apostle)
Advanced hearing - you may hear all whispers

And give aristocrat a new night ability instead of spy:
Blackmail(unlimited) - Prevent your target from speaking to anyone but yourself. They can do this in a separate chat. You will appear to be “Blackmailer” to them. Also prevents voting and accusing.

@Ellie

If anyone says the Noble should be pure vote or whisper manipulation, I am going to take all your gold away. People don’t find those fun.

It shouldn’t be half one and half the other though. Noble and aristocrat should be given private matter instead of Mystic as a noble twin replacement. Twin is rarely useful anyways.

[techwolves]

I love this rework

[Twil1ight]

@RHCube

That’s too investigative.

Like a Snoop(Which is not a good investigative abillity anyway), at least more interesting

@RHCube

That’s too confirmable, and doesn’t take any skill. It also makes it impossible for possessor to fakeclaim noble, and NKs have a hard enough time as is. Just change maid spy so it works like the current one, but remains on its target until you change targets.

Every people with brain would for sure ask you to use Political Pressure on someone specific without your fakeclaim Noble would be leaked. Also sheriff/paladin check also didn’t require any skills so what is in current “Maid Spy” that you’re saying it’s “skillful”?

@RHCube

Blackmail(unlimited) - Prevent your target from speaking to anyone but yourself. They can do this in a separate chat. You will appear to be “Blackmailer” to them. Also prevents voting and accusing.

Free Chill for Unseen? Yea sure just give a strong NK abillity to any ordinary minion. Totally not OP.

[Htm]

@RHCube

That’s too investigative. I do like the idea though. Maybe it could be a wisp rework? Here’s an idea to replace it:

Transcript(2 uses)- reveal all previous whispers to and from your target. Can target anyone(even the dead)

Imo it’s not, though I like transcript maybe make transcript a day ability?

@RHCube

That’s too confirmable, and doesn’t take any skill. It also makes it impNossible for possessor to fakeclaim noble, and NKs have a hard enough time as is. Just change maid spy so it works like the current one, but remains on its target until you change targets.

Noble is already confirmable anyway

@RHCube

Just change aristocrat’s maid spy into a new passive(the same would happen for apostle)

Advanced hearing - you may hear all whispers

That’s too OP though

[NightX]

The abilities are good.

However, I worry deciding what to do would be confusing with 3 different purposes (whispering, voting, notifications)

While classes should be able to serve secondary purposes, it gets confusing with multiple primary purposes. This is why one focus has been suggested. While what the primary function of the Noble doesn’t matter much, it should have some main focus.

[Htm]

Also could possessor see everyone’s whisper after using puppet strings? So he could able to somewhat claim noble?

[NuclearBurrito]

@RHCube

That’s too confirmable, and doesn’t take any skill. It also makes it impossible for possessor to fakeclaim noble, and NKs have a hard enough time as is.

So long as Noble has the day ability’s possessor can’t claim Noble

@RHCube

It shouldn’t be half one and half the other though. Noble and aristocrat should be given private matter instead of Mystic as a noble twin replacement. Twin is rarely useful anyways.

/support

[Twil1ight]

That wouldn’t change anything since someone would probably ask you to use political presure. And your fake claim got screwed.