I’m pretty sure it was strictly optimal to lynch officer and then nokill
and had you not put student into a position where he could avoid hammering scientist that would have been easy
I’m a Deepwolf I’m bad at power wolfing
student was there and the only one Officer could be aligned with for reasons I forgot and student was obvious town to me so I would have had a hard time pushing Officer there still
never forgiving bad vig shots again, gg wp
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On a serious note, I’m going to use this post as a opportunity to talk more about what orange talked about previously. Not that this is your fault or anything, but orange is completely right in the fact that town threw away half their remaining time this game. People shouldn’t be worried about losing too much time in the early game because you can always speed up later game and your mistakes in the early game can lead to a snowball effect similar to this game. If town gave a day or so more on D1, communications could have used that time as a opportunity to clear themselves and switch the wagon to someone else, ect.
In other words, I believe that your play this game towards the end is the exact thing that you should have been doing. You should have been trying to slow the game down, because when the game gets slowed down, the game gets harder to control for scum. Unfortunately, we were in a situation where we could use that play and label it as scummy, but that’s how it goes I guess.
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Hello there
It seems nobody guessed my alt
Mission accomplished
I think I could have definitely played better if I wasn’t busy that week
Most of my town game revolves around solving and getting myself cleared by solving, and I wish I was able to put in more time
Still fun though - would definitely play again with yall
Yeah, the time thing was something I was worried about early, but as the game went on I realized we could have been using way more time and it would have massively improved our play. Sadly days 3/4/5 kind of just sped up and it was hard to argue against it. (I also wasn’t thinking very clearly on the later days)
Should just be more vocal when impending doom is arriving I guess.
I feel like this game was largely “towncore the players posting well” and “PoE the players not posting / players not posting well.” While that can work sometimes, it’s not going to work always. Wolves can post well if they are good at wolfing, and since this was an invitational game, the odds of wolves knowing what they’re doing were higher. The “not posting well” thing only really works if every villager in the game is posting “well,” and that’s never a given.
My perspective was obviously different from that of a villager, but I actively discouraged reading the “best posters” and encouraged pushing the “worst posters” because I knew that would probably lead to a wolf victory. In my experience, “worst posters” are typically going to be villagers. “Wolfy posters” are not the same thing as “worst posters.” Same thing with “villagery posters” - it is not the same thing as “good posters.”
The townies I defended, the ones the town misyeeted, I think I defended for good enough reasons. I was trying to find Points of Villageriness within. I defended them for towncred and caved in rather easily, sure, but I had no TMI, so I could make actual reads.
What I’m trying to say is, the Comms → Coroner → Facilitator → Scientist misyeets all happened because of post quality and not because of post wolfiness / lack of post villageriness. That’s my impression, anyway.
@Prophylaxis Maybe that’ll help?
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this is definitely true
and I was dead for most of the game but I didn’t particularly want Coroner, Facilitator or Scientist out, so good for the wolves that they killed me lol.
Tbf Cryo was a cat, so I can see how there can be confusion with which cat it was
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This all makes sense.
I’ve played in invitational games in the past and they’ve tended to be town-sided in my experience because the players all generally knew each other pretty well and could work well together fairly easily. It makes wolfing in one of those invitational games difficult because not only do you have to break apart a towncore of people who know each other well, but also have to post well enough to infiltrate that towncore yourself.
I agree that worst posters tend to be villagers but I think that’s mostly because of the fact that there are more villagers than wolves, which makes random lurker no. 7653 more likely to be town than not simply because of probability. Generally, I think I am pretty good at recognizing and reading low-hanging fruit townies as town. This game was tough because I couldn’t rely on my strongest aspect of my playstyle because I’m heavily dependent on these townies just giving me something, but the quick executing of people who weren’t in the game thread at the time made it difficult to do that.
It’s why I was so conflicted on Officer for a majority of the game as well. They had some good individual posts that I struggled to see coming from a wolf, but I had a hard time getting past the fact that they weren’t very proactive for most of the game. Without the benefit of meta, I didn’t know if that was how they played as opposed to them being a wolf.
I’m just kinda rambling at this point, but thanks for the feedback. I’ll take it into consideration for future games.
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