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[Student]

@Scientist

and then the apology after also feelds really towny

Is it still towny when you remember how they thought me being apologetic (regardless of whether I was or not) was scummy?

@Scientist

Facilitator has repeated jailing officer like, 4-5 times? That’s probably towny? Or just doesn’t make them w/w

It’s not villagery and it doesn’t mean anything when they could be W/W with Officer being the wolf who can’t attack N1.

@Scientist

(not order in tiers)

Facilitator
Security
Trapsetter

Student

Coroner
Officer
Comms

left:
Cryo
Teleporter
Surv
Eaves

How on Earth is Facilitator your top town?

@Cryogenics

i would say they are probably sympathizer with the way they been handling this game

there’s been moments in their isoes where I think they scumread a post but they don’t say much about those types of posts and basically doesn’t comment further about it (for example they replied LMAO to a comment that made it sound that they found the idea hilariously scummy)

You know, that would explain why they don’t feel explicitly wolfy but some of their reads are questionable.

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Cryo and Eavesdropper are probably villagery for wanting to be checked by Scientist.

[Cryogenics]

@Student

You know, that would explain why they don’t feel explicitly wolfy but some of their reads are questionable.

this actually strikes the nail on the head tbh

[Student]

@Teleporter

Their approach to me reads to me like a villager who was excited that they found a “scumslip” of mine and wanted to show the class. This type of belief that they caught me is something that is generally difficult for wolves to fake, because they know almost all alignments in this game already. Their subsequent backoff feels real too and not malicious.

Once again, this isn’t that hard to fake because it could just as easily be a wolf opportunistically jumping on the easiest thing to push someone for. The so-called conviction could just as easily be this scum motivated eagerness.

[Officer]

@Cryogenics

@Officer

@Cryogenics

@Officer

Surveillance, I like your content. Elaborate on the cryo read? Is it that they appear hyper aware of scum pov?

Something I haven’t seen people mention regarding officer’s posts is this post. It feels like they were trying to buddy up with surveillance and then they even asked a leading question, like they already thought they knew the answer themselves.

…And that’s scummy why? I was just saying my thoughts and bouncing them off?

Wolves have a tendency to try to buddy up with villagers in games and “befriend them” because they find it easier to blend in that way. The post appeared as though it was trying to show that you were trying to understand surveillance point of view more, however, the post actually appears to be made with the intention of trying to buddy up with them, not actually understanding their point of view.

It was made with the intention of discussing views on your slot?

[Officer]

I still think there is zero villager indicative things in facili’s iso and they are probably just a hit

[Student]

@Cryogenics

your last few posts strike me as off but I’m not sure how to describe it

It’s a personality thing. Trust me on this.

[Cryogenics]

ok then

[Teleporter]

Still on post 680 or something, once I’ve fully caught up I’ll start doing the things I promised to do yesterday night.

@Officer - Mostly responding to Surv’s posts around the 650 mark.

@Student - What’s the wolf motivation for Facilitator to vote me and then immediately do a 180 four posts later? Feels much more likely to come from a villager who thought they caught me in a slip but then saw the explanation and realized that they were wrong, vs a wolf who… wanted to deliberately plan this out as a way to get townread.

[Eavesdropper]

@Cryogenics

eavesdropper

you can be honest here

are you mafia

honest answer is no

[Eavesdropper]

@Officer

@Eavesdropper

Wait, actually I think it was the same post I pointed out.

Yes it was when they said “but officer isn’t sus” when they hadnt caught up on a chunk of the thread where I was getting a decent amount of pressure.

Yep, I asked them about that. Not sure if you saw their response already.

[Student]

@Teleporter

What’s the wolf motivation for Facilitator to vote me and then immediately do a 180 four posts later? Feels much more likely to come from a villager who thought they caught me in a slip but then saw the explanation and realized that they were wrong, vs a wolf who… wanted to deliberately plan this out as a way to get townread.

@Student

Once again, this isn’t that hard to fake because it could just as easily be a wolf opportunistically jumping on the easiest thing to push someone for. The so-called conviction could just as easily be this scum motivated eagerness.

Then they could have seen it wasn’t actually a slip and unvote accordingly for a villagery backtrack.

[Cryogenics]

Since the thread has been revived I’m okay with delaying hammering for a couple hours tbh

[Eavesdropper]

oh no lol

[Cryogenics]

I really just want coroner to come online tbh

[Teleporter]

Like if Facilitator claimed what I said was a scumslip and continued pushing me over it, I would have incinerated him. But I don’t think a wolf looks at the post I made, goes to the OP, pulls out the rolecard information, acts like they’ve caught scum, then does an about-face four posts later. I just don’t think that thought even enters their brain.

It’s very likely that a wolf just silently accepts the town-clear that Surv gives me and then tries to push the thread in a different space.

[Eavesdropper]

same, but I don’t know whether that’s hoping for too much.
they probably forgot the game existed tbh.

[Officer]

@Facilitator

@Eavesdropper

This reasoning makes perfect sense, but it was mostly the wording in your original post that I didn’t like. You didn’t give any sort of hint that you considered that Officer could be a wolf being jailed, since you said “they want to jail sus ppl” which made it look like you were already saying that Officer wasn’t sus (and hence your saying that Officer was neither top town nor top scum is a bit odd in conjunction with the “sus” wording you had before).

That’s a very fair point.

I’ll be real here - my wording is terrible for all of the posts before I switched back to my normal playstyle/typing habits. Any suspicion because of that is probably deserved on my end.

@Eavesdropper

Is it bad that I actually think the excuse is so flimsy that a wolf could do better? idk

Eh

I could do the flimsy excuse thing as scum any day

This response? This does nothing for me and still doesn’t address what the actual issue was from my POV

[Eavesdropper]

@Eavesdropper

same, but I don’t know whether that’s hoping for too much.
they probably forgot the game existed tbh.

if I want to be more specific
they probably forgot the game existed and have no scum buddies to remind them it exists
and there’s no wolfchat anyway so this means exactly nothing lmao

[Scientist]

@Student

How on Earth is Facilitator your top town?

@Scientist

(not order in tiers)

[Scientist]

also you LITERALLY QUOTED STUFF FROM MY FACILITATOR ISO